Queen has been

Average at best is pretty good for where he was picked. The fact that we gave up a second unprotected 1st round pick to simply move up to get him is what makes it nearly impossible for him to live up to the value.

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I’d still rather him than Kingston Flemings

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It wasn't just Kingston Flemmings; perhaps you forgot.

One thing I feel certain of --- DQ will always be a defensive liability. He doesn't have the athleticism to defend in this league. That said, he has a long way to go offensively to prove he's worth two first round selections (one being a lottery pick). I am impressed with his rebounding thus far this year.

DEFENSE!!! DEFENSE!!! DEFEENSE!!!

Queen starting avg (48 games):
27 min/ 13.4 pts/ 8 reb/ 4.6 ast/ 1stl/ 1blck

Queen off the bench avg ( 38 games):
24 min 11.8 its/ 7.8 reb/ 1.8 ast/ 1st/ .6 blck

We haven't necessarily maximized his abilities or potential compared to Fears. Its also obvious that he is less impactful off the bench with a dip on blocks and a bigger drop in assists.

He's a walking double/ double that has the ability to get 5-10 assists any game.

Ironically enough his worst trajectory right now is a Jonas Val who will be better at defense and will get 5x the assists.

Averaging 1 stl/ 1 blck per game while starting half/ off the bench half and playing both PF/ C is not a liability.

Y'all have wanted Val back since he left, this dude does the same + more but yet y'all hate him for reasons that have nothing to do with him specifically or comparable to other players you like.

He is so much better than Val it’s actually disrespectful to compare the two. One is a skilled big man who can be an offensive hub, the other would miss wide open putbacks.

Wtf does Demps keep posting that keeps getting axed?

I like Queen too, but Jonas was a winning player for us. You could pencil him in for 12 points, 12 boards a night, for 82 nights a year. He was arguably our 2nd or 3rd best player in the Griff Era. Ingram, CJ Jonas. Jrue wasn't here long enough for me during the Griff Era to count.

I’m one of the only people who wasn’t a huge fan of Val. Yeah, maybe he deserves more respect because he was an Ironman when everyone else on the team was oft injured. I’ll give him that, but my main memories of him are him getting his big paws on an offensive rebound and missing the tip in from beneath the goal. shite used to infuriate me.

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He is so much better than Val it’s actually disrespectful to compare the two. One is a skilled big man who can be an offensive hub, the other would miss wide open putbacks.

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Val might go down as the most disrespected Pelican ever. Dude was a work horse for three straight seasons and basically averaged 16/11 for the three seasons. And we suffered when he left. The Val slander is kind of insane.

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The Val slander is kind of insane.

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Imagine comparing a high regarded young player that we traded 2 drats picks for to a loved player who played really well for us and thinking its slander.

Its only slander if you view Queen that low, says more about you.

Jonas has had 1 career 30/20 game:
34 pts/ 20 reb/ 5 ast

Queen (1) 30/20 game:
30 pts/ 22 reb/ 4 ast

Jonas has had 1 Trip Dub:
26 pts/ 19 reb/ 12 ast

Queen has (2) Trip Dubs:
33 pts/10 reb/10 ast
(1st 30 pt trip dub from a rookie C in history)

14 pts/ 16 reb/ 12 ast


Val has a higher chance to get 25/30 pts and Queen has a higher chance to do more everywhere else. This is a pretty crazy comparison considering these games haplened in Queen's rookie year vs 14 year career of Val.