re: Poster on Reddit claims we have signed Wenyen Gabriel and Sindarius Thornwell edit: we did

Ingram isn’t even a bad defender. Whoever is the backup defender on the bench if it’s Hart or Thornwell will be going against their back up SF. Which shouldn’t matter much honestly. There aren’t many offensive SFs that can take over a game.

They don’t, which is why it’s wise to prioritize trades targeting them or drafting and developing those types of players. Since as the Pels should have learned by now after nearly a decade of this problem, they get gobbled up and overpaid in free agency. Harrison Barnes is probably 50 million dollars richer than his production warrants, but he was an open market 3 that can guard up and down and match up with the best small forwards.

People were giving Atlanta shite but suddenly they have a roster rich with 2/3, 3/4, and 4/3 players.

Not saying I outright regret Hayes, but if you asked me today if I would accept a Hayes for Reddish swap I wouldn’t hesitate.

I agree I would’ve went reddish and Clarke over Hayes and NAW.

You forgot Herro & PJ Washington & every other player that you know if better now

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You forgot Herro & PJ Washington & every other player that you know if better now

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Honestly I wanted Rui Hachimura or Coby White. Hayes is too raw for me to draft at 8. Can we really develop him?

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Why thank you, such kind words

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It wasnt intended to be kind. It was intended to be accurate.

That’s kind of the point. Rui & Clarke were older prospects. They are as old as guys like ball & Ingram

Hayes’ window for development is much larger & yes I think they can develop him into a rotation guy

Yeah I remember him from the playoffs. He was pretty good. I think he’s a good gamble to see if he can crack the lineup and develop into a good rotational player. I think both guys and Hernangomez are great developmental guys to see if can develop into key rotational players.

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You don’t understand wanting to have anyone on the roster that can even remotely guard the best players?

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Yeah but then you are taking one of our better 2 players in Zion or Ingram off the floor just to play defense.

Bottom line is the have to get better and we have to have better team defense, which we do simply from the fact that Gentry is gone.

Any defensive wing was going to get very limited minutes anyway. Hart can hold up enough, and Gabriel can easily fill that limited minutes role.

I think this circles back to one of the season long questions which will be Lonzo. As there is certainly a scenario he blossoms into a very solid 1 through 3 defender. But also one where continues to struggle

Because I think something missing a bit is that both the past regime and Ingram himself has expressed a desire for him to play more of a two role offensively and being more of a 2/3 defender as opposed to the 3/4 defender he has been stuck as.

Which I don’t exactly disagree. And while I’ve very much talked myself into the potential of a guy like Kira, you can imagine an ideal roster around Kira, Zion, and Ingram including a 3/4 style 3 and D defender in the mold of how Okoro, Vassell, Nesmith, or Reddish last year project out. Having that balanced mix of shooting, length, size, and explosiveness. Someone to pair with Ingram where both guys can basically comfortably switch onto 2’s, 3’s, and 4’s, but the 3 and D guy can help alleviate the pressure from Ingram by taking the more draining and difficult match ups.

If you keep Lonzo, and at the 2 defensively, the way I see it is that means Ingram will need to step up defensively and any 3 and D guy you get will just be doing bench duty and situational match ups