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re: Pels trade hawk Peavy and 2 2nds for Taj Gibson and AJ Johnson
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:49 pm to NOSHAU
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:49 pm to NOSHAU
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AJ had little to no upside. I think he is on his 5th team already. 2 and 4 are correct. Curious to see if they do anything with Poole.
77 games with 4 different teams averaging 14minutes and 4 fga attempted in garbage time at 21 y/o.
Not saying he will be worth anything but there's certainly upside/ room for improvement or at a minimum consistency. If he can't shoot, dribble, create his own shot, or play defense then he still already has a chance to be better than Hawk.
Still makes sense to get rid of Poole. We need another big and I doubt Poole is happy getting pushed out the lineup.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:51 pm to NOSHAU
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Hawkins for Aj straight up wasn’t an option. And adding Gibson messes up the roster numbers even though he was cut.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:54 pm to Tank77
quote:Just as much as your being content with the product will turn it around.
your unhappiness will turn this thing around!
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:34 pm to shel311
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You can be happy with 21 and 26 wins the past 2 seasons, have at it. Good for you!
I choose to not be happy about a failing franchise.
Its a new season. We are 0-0. Why does anything right now have to do with how you felt about last year, 2 years ago, 10 years ago? I'm happy that those previous seasons are over and am excited to see the new group of players and who fits.
Because you are upset about previous seasons your goal is to ruin any amount of hope, excitement, and positive news regarding the franchise? When do yall accept you are no longer fans of the team and only haters? This isn't a situation where its just some criticism with a sprinkle of hope, y'all legit hate this team but still post here. Its the weirdest thing.
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Just as much as your being content with the product will turn it around.
Will you acknowledge your bias when ignoring the impact of Queen/ Fears/ Mathurin/ Bey? That could be our starting core in 2 years, all new players.
Everyone stuck on "turning it around" or "running it back" that's not the point. The point is we have enough assets to see what works and what doesn't. Enough young assets to rebuild our core, enough information to move on from what we have. Those are exciting things for a team that hasn't really added anyone or shown any specific plan for the future until now.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:40 pm to Dantheman504
quote:I choose to practice being a realist, not an optimist.
Its a new season. We are 0-0. Why does anything right now have to do with how you felt about last year, 2 years ago, 10 years ago? I'm happy that those previous seasons are over and am excited to see the new group of players and who fits.
quote:Again, today the Pelicans received zero positive news.
Because you are upset about previous seasons your goal is to ruin any amount of hope, excitement, and positive news regarding the franchise?
quote:Calling the Pels what they are does not make me any less of a fan than someone who is too blind to see what the Pels are. Again, it just makes me a realist, and the other person out of touch with reality.
When do yall accept you are no longer fans of the team and only haters?
quote:This is such a weird post to make, like your'e basically saying you have literally no understanding of why people have zero confidence in a team that has won 47 games total in the past 2 seasons, and you just can't understand why this place isn't filled with optimism across the board.
This isn't a situation where its just some criticism with a sprinkle of hope, y'all legit hate this team but still post here. Its the weirdest thing.
That is just a wild, wild take that is, as I said above, completely out of touch with the actual reality of the situation.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:45 pm to Dantheman504
Mcgowens slightly better than Peavy, now drain Poole out of here. Def need a big
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:55 pm to shel311
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Calling the Pels what they are does not make me any less of a fan than someone who is too blind to see what the Pels are. Again, it just makes me a realist, and the other person out of touch with reality.
That's what media outlets and podcasters do. Fans do the same thing but they also discuss the upside of their players, potential, what could happen down the line, etccc. Y'all have no brain capacity for that. Just darkness and doom. Move the franchise they are hopeless.
That's not a fan, that's a big media sponsor. Fans criticize, media hates.
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our'e basically saying you have literally no understanding of why people have zero confidence in a team that has won 47 games total in the past 2 seasons, and you just can't understand why this place isn't filled with optimism across the board
No, this is actually wrong. Your opinions come from the distain of players who were already on the roster and a franchise that was already in a bad place. There's very little discussion of digging out of this hole and even less understanding of how/ why we haven't. I'm actually one of maybe 2-3 people that have outlined a path where theres light at the end of the tunnel and discussed a team post Zion or headlined by our young players.
I don't have blind confidence we will be good. I do value Fears/ Queen very highly, believe Bey/ Mathurin can be huge additions, and expect Zion/ Trey to either do more or get traded (which is also exciting).
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:59 pm to Dantheman504
quote:I've talked about what can happen the past 2 seasons, and I've been correct about it.
Fans do the same thing but they also discuss the upside of their players, potential, what could happen down the line, etccc.
So...
Back to my point about being a realist vs not being in touch with the reality of the situation.
quote:Or another way to put, a realistic view on the franchise.
Y'all have no brain capacity for that. Just darkness and doom.
quote:90% of this board is discussing why we haven't dug out of this hole, what are you talking about
There's very little discussion of digging out of this hole and even less understanding of how/ why we haven't.
quote:How's that take worked out for you the past 2 seasons, vs my realistic take on the Pels?
I'm actually one of maybe 2-3 people that have outlined a path where theres light at the end of the tunnel
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:09 pm to shel311
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How's that take worked out for you the past 2 seasons, vs my realistic take on the Pels?
Didn't realize we had Bey, Queen, Fears, Mathurin, or Murray 2 seasons ago. I've also stated we need a starting Center through this entire timespan.
We have not seen the best of Queen, Missi, Fears, Karlo, and Murray. Mathurin is new. Bey is the only new addition we got to see and he was dropping 40pt games. The horror!
The only (3) players that either regressed or didn't move the needle were Z, Trey, and Herb. They also have the most value and can help transform the roster with trades. Again, the horror!
Its hard for y'all to comprehend someone being excited about Fears, Queen, etcc and also being excited because we either get an improved Trey/ Z/ Herb or we finally move on from some of those guys.
I'm cool moving on from Z. I'm also cool with seeing if he actually gets closer to his ceiling. Even if we fail then I'm still excited about what moves we make and who we pair with Fears/ Queen going forward.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:11 pm to BallHawk
quote:It is this year, but not after that.
I don't know if Peavy's contract is fully guaranteed but I can see a world where they try to cut him and retain him on a two-way.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:13 pm to Tank77
quote:Not if both he and Johnson were cut. Maybe they think there is a change Johnson can make the team (and value him more than Peavy).
Hawkins for Aj straight up wasn’t an option. And adding Gibson messes up the roster numbers even though he was cut.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:20 pm to Tank77
Dumping picks for a player they kept another year that everyone with a brain knew had no future is my biggest problem.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:24 pm to Macintosh
It's definitely a poor decision with poor foresight. But Mathurin on the market for what his asking price was also a surprise. Even if they didn't pick up the option, they would have probably still made a move and put themselves in the very same position scrambling to dump contracts to sign him.
Either way, this front office lives in the present and everyone will just have to accept it.
Either way, this front office lives in the present and everyone will just have to accept it.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:25 pm to whatiknowsofar
So basically salary dump, giving up draft capital. Will keep eye out for if Hawk can be developed with a different organization
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:41 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Dang, we must have had a good season last season.
Didn't realize we had Bey, Queen, Fears, Mathurin, or Murray 2 seasons ago.
quote:It's hard for you to comprehend that the realists have been spot on about the Pels, and your optimistic takes have gotten us zero playoff wins for 4+ years now..
Its hard for y'all to comprehend someone being excited about Fears, Queen, etcc and also being excited because we either get an improved Trey/ Z/ Herb or we finally move on from some of those guys.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:29 pm to Dantheman504
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This isn't a situation where its just some criticism with a sprinkle of hope, y'all legit hate this team but still post here. Its the weirdest thin
This is complete bullshite, by the way.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:10 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Holy shite this trade got 6 pages
THE FANS CARE GAYLE. SPEND frickING MONEY frick
THE FANS CARE GAYLE. SPEND frickING MONEY frick
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:46 pm to whatiknowsofar
Subtraction by subtraction
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:49 am to whatiknowsofar
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Let's not pretend that Peavy was that good, or that 2nds matter.
Peavy was very solid defensively and two 2nds matter
Wtf are you talking about
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:27 am to Chalkywhite84
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Peavy was very solid defensively
Being a bright spot on a very bad team doesnt make him a solid piece. Hes a guard that cant shoot. End of bench players arent "solid pieces"
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two 2nds matter
They dont.
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