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re: Pels trade hawk Peavy and 2 2nds for Taj Gibson and AJ Johnson
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:28 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:28 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
two 2nds matter
They dont.
You can't be this dumb.
Didn't 3 good players just get traded for 2 2nds?
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:32 am to Chalkywhite84
quote:
Didn't 3 good players just get traded for 2 2nds?
Jose's trade was criminal and I've been on record with that.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:48 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:They absolutely do. Look at some very solid players that would help this team that were traded for 2nd rounders this offseason. Heck, Stewart alone would have filled a hole in the roster.
They dont.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 10:51 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Jose's trade was criminal and I've been on record with that
What about Lu Dort, Isaiah Stewart, and Aaron Wiggins? All would help us and all went for 2nds
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:04 am to Balsamic_duck
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What about Lu Dort, Isaiah Stewart, and Aaron Wiggins? All would help us and all went for 2nds
Poole/ Hawk are the only (2) players that could match similar salary. If we planned to get Mathurin and move Hawk then Jordan Poole was the only asset you can trade to make these work.
The Lu Dort for 2nds defense is getting tiresome. The $80mil into the Owners pocket is why he was traded for the value. And the team had to take his salary without sending any out which we can't do.
Pistons weren't going to take on an extra $15-$20mil for Poole. Wiggins would have been ok but it if we plan to keep Mathurin/ Bey long term then its just makes it tighter to give them contracts.
Maybe all would help us but unfortunately trades include players preference, salary, team needs, team wants, etch. Jaylen Brown would have helped us too for the value if he didn't say "I'm not going to the Pelicans."
Yes 2nd's can matter and help with trades but there's alot more to some of the examples you gave.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:35 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:This seems like the mindset of Dumars, which is a small example of why we suck so badly under Dumars.
They dont.
Not caring about 2nds is how you end up having to dump 2nds to duck the tax when it was otherwise completely avoidable and most Pels fans said it in the moment that picking up the Hawkins option was a terrible move.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:36 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Hell, Herb Jones is on our team, was a 2nd round pick.
What about Lu Dort, Isaiah Stewart, and Aaron Wiggins? All would help us and all went for 2nds
The idea that they're completely useless, so it's ok to botch the Hawkins option and that cost us a 2nd round pick is just wild
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:59 am to shel311
quote:Agreed. There is absolutely no argument to support wasting 2nd round picks.
The idea that they're completely useless, so it's ok to botch the Hawkins option and that cost us a 2nd round pick is just wild
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