re: Pels trade hawk Peavy and 2 2nds for Taj Gibson and AJ Johnson

Few years back we offered 4/88 and he went to the mavs for 4/72. Would those said minimum players sign here? You don’t know and I don’t know. Just quit assuming like a move is available for the pelicans to make because it’s easy to assume.

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Where did I say we shouldn’t care about 2nds

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You replied to me taking exception to a guy saying 2nds don't matter, the only way for me to logically consume your post is to assume you disagreed with my statement.

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The point is the team won less than 50 games the past 2 years. The fanbase is understandably frustrated.

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And this deal is just 1 example of why this team has won less than 50 games the past 2 years.

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The fanbase is understandably frustrated.

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If you're not furious that we wasted a 2nd round pick, you're not frustrated enough.

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You don't NEED To defend them at every turn. 

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The few good things that we do are turned into negatives. Y'all don't NEED to turn everything into a negative. Y'all try to overshadow any sign of good news, that's quite aggravating.

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All that being said, it is getting to be time to turn off the negativity, even when it is warranted, and have some hope for the season and approach the team with open eyes.

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And when this happens a group of "Pels fans" will shite on every good thing said about the team and cause unnecessary arguments that then turn into a "defense" by default.

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You are quite incapable of having any kind of rational conversation as you have
demonstrated again and again

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I've had more rational conversations and responses to people than probably anyone else on here. I guess lets act like I don't respond to 90% of people rationally because I call people bitches when they are being bitches.

I responded 9 times in this thread with completely rational responses. Here's a few examples of other rational opinions:

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Absolutely fireable decision. No excuse for it

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There's always a but following "i know this is bad".

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And then you laughing at a completely reasonable post about Dumars making good changes while knowing yall would hate the next guy just as much

Telling someone how many roster spots we have = irrational

Outlining a trade package= irrational

Breaking down our camp contracts for someone= irrational

Responding to your question with a full rational response= irrational

Starting out a post with "I get the frustration of trading a 2nd with Hawk, but"= irrational

Blatantly saying "this is bad", "fire dumars", and a laughing emoji at a full parapgraph response to a question YOU asked= rational.

Rational and an a-hole? Sure, I won't argue. Irrational? bullshite.

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The few good things that we do are turned into negatives

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We didn't do anything good today,

Nothing we did today will turn into wins. We lost a 2nd rounder.

The only positive was getting under the tax, and that solely benefits Gayle Benson's bottom line.

The Pels or their fans got nothing tangible today that will help winning, and actually got slightly worse. And this is after the vast majority of folks predicted this the moment we picked up the Hawkins option.

I fail to see what positive news we heard today...

Peavy or Hawkins might not even make the roster…..

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lol you got it man! Enjoy the rest of your day. Loft18 has 10% off golf simulation play. take some anger out on that

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You can be happy with 21 and 26 wins the past 2 seasons, have at it. Good for you!

I choose to not be happy about a failing franchise.

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Few years back we offered 4/88 and he went to the mavs for 4/72. Would those said minimum players sign here? You don’t know and I don’t know. Just quit assuming like a move is available for the pelicans to make because it’s easy to assume.

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The comment was that there were shooters available last offseason for less than $7 million that could have filled the Hawkins spot. Anyone who follows the NBA would know that. Stop assuming no one would sign for less just because it does not fit your unbridled defense narrative of Dumars/Weaver.

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1. Adding an asset with upside (AJ Johnson)
2. Not giving Hawk anymore minutes
3. Gaining leverage in a Poole trade since we aren't strapped at the tax line now.
4. Actually being able to acquire Mathurin

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AJ had little to no upside. I think he is on his 5th team already. 2 and 4 are correct. Curious to see if they do anything with Poole.

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1. Adding an asset with upside (AJ Johnson)

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35% from the field and 24% from 3...not sure there's an argument he has any more upside than Peavy. There is no argument he has more upside then Peavy plus a pick.

We paid that price to get under the tax, not to get AJ Johnson, no one cares about AJ Johnson.

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2. Not giving Hawk anymore minutes
3. Gaining leverage in a Poole trade since we aren't strapped at the tax line now.
4. Actually being able to acquire Mathurin

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Which, as most Pels fans said the moment we picked up the option, all 3 of these things could have been done a season earlier and without having to give up a draft pick to duck the tax.

This is not positive. This is cleaning up a mess that was unnecessarily created, why do you get points for that?

Facts your unhappiness will turn this thing around!