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re: Pels holding voluntary minicamp in Cali next week, entire roster will be in attendance

Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:14 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:14 am to
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Wasn't Zion out of the country? Or did he go before he left?



I'm not sure that Zion was there the entire time, but all reports indicate that he was definitely there for part of it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62433 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:29 am to
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Prepare for a shite show with ingram


Ingram having a bad attitude puts us on the path to resolution. It gives Willie a reason to bench him and Griff a reason to dump him for the best offer at the deadline or sooner.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 11:28 am to
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Ingram having a bad attitude puts us on the path to resolution. It gives Willie a reason to bench him and Griff a reason to dump him for the best offer at the deadline or sooner.



In reality, though, I don't really think that BI himself has a bad attitude. All indications are that he's always gotten along well with Willie and Griff, and the team has never said a single negative word about him. Guys like Jose look up to him as an older brother.

I think that this is 100% driven by his agent.

And it makes sense from that standpoint. Right now, BI's long-term value has been depressed by the fact that no other team wants to give up anything for BI and the Pels don't want to extend him at a number that they like.

That's just a bad narrative for BI's value. So it makes sense to change the narrative and for them to say something like:

"BI has given his heart and soul to New Orleans. He came to the city and showed his worth by winning MIP and becoming an all-star. But, after that, the team asked him to play roles that didn't fit his skillset, and they failed to surround him with the talent to enable him to shine. BI is a great player who could again by an all-star if the right pieces are put around him, and since the Pelicans aren't doing that, BI needs to go somewhere else. Either that, or the Pelicans need to extend him at a number that respects his talent."


TLDR: I don't know if BI's "bad attitude" is real or fake.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11332 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:37 pm to
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Ingram having a bad attitude puts us on the path to resolution. It gives Willie a reason to bench him and Griff a reason to dump him for the best offer at the deadline or sooner.


Disagree. There’s gms that know what they want to trade for. If bi gets an offer to a title contender, then dish. No disrespect, he’s a great player, but let what you got gel. I’m excited about the team, with or without bi. If he stays, we have a stacked wing and attack.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2223 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:58 pm to
This has always been the smart play. Pels don’t have enough top end talent to play addition by subtraction.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7118 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:01 am to
Sengun was considered a top 2-3 all star snub last season. All Star Rosters were made up of 24
Players. So that puts him pretty solidly within the Top 30.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7118 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:05 am to
They also went 4-1 in the 5 games before he went down. The 10-0 was impressive, but it was their softest part of the schedule. I do agree that Green and Sengun need to optimize better when both are on the floor. But even if that dynamic doesn’t work out, they have a ton of talent. Whitmore, Reed Sheppard, Amen, Jabari, etc. they are going to find a combination that works imo. They could also flip Green and/or another young player for another win now piece. Vanfleet and Brooks are useful vets and they can also get out of either contract pretty easily.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1870 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
Ingram will not be on this team when the season starts
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35240 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35240 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Ingram will not be on this team when the season starts



Wanna bet?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123599 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Ingram will not be on this team when the season starts



Sure, you could be right. But no chance you should bet money on it because chances are, he is.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11332 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:33 pm to
My bet is a couple weeks into regular season. If he gets traded.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
32914 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:19 pm to
This is a true no man’s land situation. If you somehow get him to sign a number that’s good enough for the Pels, he still doesn’t fit our roster construction and we’re not even sure that number the Pels are good with is a number other teams would be OK with.


At this point, idk if we get anything more than some second round picks for him
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10750 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:37 pm to
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At this point, idk if we get anything more than some second round picks for him


The Jazz don't want either Collins or Kessler. They could trade both for Ingram, and at worst open up a ton of cap space for next summer. Our roster at least makes some sense if we do that deal. I believe that trade is a 10 game swing, at least. I don't understand why we haven't pulled the trigger on that. Do we have to include picks?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123599 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:38 pm to
I think if we had a deal that got us a decent center and parts we would have done it by now
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7161 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:40 pm to
Only hope is that Dejounte and Zion develop a nice 1-2 game that leaves CJ/BI/Trey wide open... problem is that as soon as Ingram touches the ball he's going to put it on the floor to position himself into a stupid long fadeaway 2
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 9:17 am to
@PelicansPress:

quote:

According to Pelicans sources in California there has been a very obvious standout: Jordan Hawkins

He’s rarely missed, amped up defensively, and has clearly added more muscle to compete in the NBA.

This is really great to hear after an up and down SL.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31409 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:37 am to
Hawkins for Kessler

MAKE IT frickING HAPPEN
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11332 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:28 pm to
What if you offer a 1 year 38 team option 15 guaranteed?

Still think he’s an elite shooter.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
5420 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:42 am to
Hawk will turn into Buddy Hield when we trade him
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