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re: Pelicans Trade Rumors and Chatter
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:15 pm to Soggymoss
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:15 pm to Soggymoss
Who said salary’s dump ?
I think you and many on the board over value him and the comparisons to AD and Durant prove that .
If Griff could get that level of return he should have pulled the trigger yesterday .
I think you and many on the board over value him and the comparisons to AD and Durant prove that .
If Griff could get that level of return he should have pulled the trigger yesterday .
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:10 pm to ned nederlander
quote:He had 3 games of 6-17, 7-19 and 8-19 shooting
He averaged nearly 40 minutes a game, shot .407 for 3 and averaged 27 pts, 6.2 rebs, 6.2 asts. He went 30, 6, 6 against the clippers to get us there.
Ingram was great during that stretch. Perhaps not unbelievable but certainly great.
And he had 3 outstanding games. But again, you can't say a dude was "unbelievable" when 50% of the games are subpar shooting nights. He was good, not great.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Why do you think 6-17, 7-19, and 8-19 are irrelevant?
Don’t come in here with positive BI stats. It’s unwelcomed and irrelevant.
I'm taking all stats into the equation, and you're the one ignoring what you want to ignore since it doesn't fit a narrative. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
We played 6 games. Ingram had 3 bad shooting nights. You can disagree with that, but I don't know why you would, that's weird.
In the 2 final games of the series he shot a combined 39% from the field but you think it's just hating to think that's not unbelievable and great?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:48 pm to Soggymoss
I wish we could get Mason Plumlee. I think he’d be a perfect fit on this team
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:51 am to shel311
quote:
Why do you think 6-17, 7-19, and 8-19 are irrelevant? I'm taking all stats into the equation, and you're the one ignoring what you want to ignore since it doesn't fit a narrative. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen. We played 6 games. Ingram had 3 bad shooting nights. You can disagree with that, but I don't know why you would, that's weird. In the 2 final games of the series he shot a combined 39% from the field but you think it's just hating to think that's not unbelievable and great?
Not to mention we had to make a furious come back to beat a clippers team with no PG or KL.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:53 am to shel311
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Why do you think 6-17, 7-19, and 8-19 are irrelevant? I'm taking all stats into the equation, and you're the one ignoring what you want to ignore since it doesn't fit a narrative. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Yeah ok
Let’s tell BI who scored 21 points and had 11 assists in a game 6 and made a shot to put us up 1 with 2 minutes left he had a bad game. lets tell him if only you could go 24/26 from the field like CP3 and Ayton we might have won the game and we could have said you had a good game.
Cmon man. Don’t sit here and just look at stats and tell me he wasn’t good for half that series. We were all impressed with his play that series. No one is going to be perfect every game.
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In the 2 final games of the series he shot a combined 39% from the field but you think it's just hating to think that's not unbelievable and great?
I guess Jokic wasn’t that good either in his sweep of LA last year. In 3 games he shot a combined 45% from the field, well below his average of 63% that year.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:28 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:THAT is unbelievable
lets tell him if only you could go 24/26 from the field like CP3 and Ayton
Shooting for 19 and 8 for 19 is not.
This isn't difficult.
BI was good, not unbelievable or even close to it in that series.
It's wild that this is even a conversation, some of you set the bar really low to be amazed.
quote:He was impressive, he was not UNBELIEVABLE.
We were all impressed with his play that series.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:43 am to shel311
Ingram killed the Suns until they started putting Bridges more exclusively on him. Even then Ingram got his buckets but he wasn't as consistent.
Ingram put the fear of God into that Suns team and wiped them out. Chris Paul played his best series in 3 years, Ayton was just a terrible matchup for JV, and they feasted.
Ingram put the fear of God into that Suns team and wiped them out. Chris Paul played his best series in 3 years, Ayton was just a terrible matchup for JV, and they feasted.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:47 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Right, good summation.
Ingram killed the Suns until they started putting Bridges more exclusively on him. Even then Ingram got his buckets but he wasn't as consistent.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:56 am to shel311
quote:
He was impressive, he was not UNBELIEVABLE.
Ok. then lets just say he was impressive. I didn't realize you were so passionate about the word unbelievable.
To get back on topic, what would it take to get Patrick Williams? Kira/Naji and '25 1st.
He'd be coming here to be the backup 4, but he is a RFA this offseason so we'd have control to keep him.
He needs a change of scenery, and he is shooting 40% from 3 and a good defender. Not sure what he's going to demand this offseason though.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:13 am to TeddyPadillac
Considering who all is going to be a FA this offseason (LeBron on down), PW would be pretty far down the totem pole in attention as far as big money players go.
It has little bearing on his asking price but it shows that so many in demand players are set to be available that he may be sitting a while before someone throws an offer sheet his way.
It has little bearing on his asking price but it shows that so many in demand players are set to be available that he may be sitting a while before someone throws an offer sheet his way.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:06 am to AboveTheRim
quote:Nah, I have read that the Nets have realized that Bridges is an excellent complimentary player but not the star in the making they had hoped for.
I disagree . I think the nets would say no or ask for additional assets .
What I’m realizing though is that many on this board either see something that I just don’t see regarding Zion .
Or
are just holding on to the hope that he will be something more
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:18 am to NOSHAU
Isn’t that the realization that the Pels following has had about Zion?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:20 am to NOSHAU
quote:
I don't think Willie or Griffin think of BI as a #2 so why should BI?
not to get off topic again, but just wanted to point this out from ESPN main page on their Power Rankings.
quote:
NBA Power Rankings: The Nuggets and Jamal Murray march on, while Ingram's Pelicans stay steady
ESPN also sees this as BI's team.
Zion needs to take the reigns.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:21 am to AboveTheRim
quote:The fans? Do they make the decision? I know there are certain people (i.e. MM and his many alters) feel they know more than management, but are still just fans.
Isn’t that the realization that the Pels following has had about Zion?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:31 am to Soggymoss
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Brian Windhorst on Brandon Ingram: “He has one year left after this season. I think it’s all public, I think it’s all been said now, but I spoke to Brandon about it last summer when he was a Team USA, and basically, he told me he didn’t not want to re-sign. He just wanted to leave the option open and making All-NBA so that he could get the supermax. He’s actually having a pretty good season, but he’s not having an All-NBA season. And so in the summer, they don’t have to do something with him, but if he doesn’t extend that might get interesting. If they do re-sign him that’s going to hit the books at a pretty big number, even without the supermax. This is what I’ve nicknamed the ‘Stress Max’, we’re in ‘Stress Max’ zone with Brandon because of the stress on their side, and stress on his side.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:34 am to WB504
BI’s next deal will have his first year salary starting at 47 million, and by the end of the contract he would be at almost 60 million.
He’s just not worth that, and I hope the FO sees it also
He’s just not worth that, and I hope the FO sees it also
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:43 am to Soggymoss
It honestly might come down to the development of Trey. If Trey shows signs of becoming an all star player- it makes the decision of not resigning BI much easier. If hes not getting there it might tempt the pels to overpay for BI.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:56 am to Pels_Yaz
I’d say Trey is progressing that way but he needs the time to show he can be a starter rather than a 6th man.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:00 am to teke184
I completely agree but even if hes not on minutes restriction, I can’t see Willie taking Herb out of the starting lineup for Trey.
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