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re: Pelicans Trade Rumors and Chatter
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:49 am to Soggymoss
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:49 am to Soggymoss
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What’s thoughts on Dejounte Murray?
That’s what I’ve been thinking about too. Is his handle good enough to solve our problems? Or would you need to go the other direction and do something like a CJ package for Trae Young. A move I can’t see Griff making because he’s not the kind of human being you want to add to your family.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 8:50 am
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:53 am to TigerinATL
His last season in San Antonio he averaged 9.2 assists to only 2.6 turnovers, so he’s shown he’s capable of doing it, the problem is him going to Atlanta with Trae as the main guy took the ball out of his hands so much.
Now here he wouldn’t have the ball in his hands as much as that Spurs team either, but even adding him to CJ, BI and Zion we should be able to get him the ball enough to run the offense and get everyone into their sets.
Now here he wouldn’t have the ball in his hands as much as that Spurs team either, but even adding him to CJ, BI and Zion we should be able to get him the ball enough to run the offense and get everyone into their sets.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:54 am to Soggymoss
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What’s thoughts on Dejounte Murray?
I don’t think he fits for a multitude other of reasons. He’s extremely ball dominant, clutch sports, and his defense is over rated. Personally, I would trade JV and Naji and attach some of our first round draft capital to go all in on Lauri. You would have to dedicate Lauri playing the 5 and might overpay to get him but I think he would completely open up the offense.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:59 am to Pels_Yaz
Y’all have to get off the Lauri train, Utah is not trading him for anything less than every possible pick we could put together along with Trey or Hawk, and we cannot afford him and the salary he will command after this year.
He’s just not worth the acquisition cost for a guy that would seriously lower our physicality and rebounding.
Getting Lauri is just not a realistic trade for us unless BI is the one going out. Detroit sure, but not the Pels.
He’s just not worth the acquisition cost for a guy that would seriously lower our physicality and rebounding.
Getting Lauri is just not a realistic trade for us unless BI is the one going out. Detroit sure, but not the Pels.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:04 am to Soggymoss
I think we can get him for picks without giving up Trey or Hawk. Lauri is really good rebounder honestly and his scoring/shooting just changes the whole dynamic of our offense. Plus he makes 17 mil this year and 18 next year. Thats a steal. To me hes the only big difference maker if Griff is willing to get rid of the picks- which is time to do.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:11 am to Pels_Yaz
But again, his new contract, where will you pay him from?
When his extension kicks in you would have
BI at 46 million
Lauri at 46 million
Zion at 40 million
Trey at ~30 million
CJ at 30 million
That’s almost 200 million tied to 5 players. Not realistic in the slightest bit for us.
But like i said earlier, if you’re trading BI for him then that starts making a little more sense, but there’s no possible way we can add him to what we already have.
And you’re not getting him for anything less than all the picks and a young player or two. Utah has no real reason to trade him unless someone overpays, they already have a shitload of future picks from the Mitchell and Gobert trades, they would actually probably value the picks less than players.
When his extension kicks in you would have
BI at 46 million
Lauri at 46 million
Zion at 40 million
Trey at ~30 million
CJ at 30 million
That’s almost 200 million tied to 5 players. Not realistic in the slightest bit for us.
But like i said earlier, if you’re trading BI for him then that starts making a little more sense, but there’s no possible way we can add him to what we already have.
And you’re not getting him for anything less than all the picks and a young player or two. Utah has no real reason to trade him unless someone overpays, they already have a shitload of future picks from the Mitchell and Gobert trades, they would actually probably value the picks less than players.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:12 am to Pels_Yaz
Ainge already has a ton of picks. He’s not trading Lauri only for more picks. It’s the same situation as SGA in OKC a few years ago. We all talked like he was gettable, but he really wasn’t.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:44 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:Highly doubtful. Utah is playing well. They have no reason to get rid of him for even more picks.
I think we can get him for picks without giving up Trey or Hawk.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:47 am to Soggymoss
We can add him if we trade him for BI like you mentioned or trade BI down the line. Ainge loves picks so I wouldn’t put it past him that he would take more picks especially the lakers 2025 which could be pretty valuable. Regardless, I tend to agree Ainge likely doesn’t trade him and Griffin wont go all in.
In regards to Murray, I personally don’t think hes a huge difference maker and he’s extremely ball dominant(major reason it didn’t work in Atlanta). To me he doesn’t really solve any of our problems but just makes the one ball-too many mouths to feed situation worse personally. We could try to swing for Jarrett Allen but we would have to change our starting lineup- can’t see it working with Herb. Other than that not sure if there are any huge stars that fit.
In regards to Murray, I personally don’t think hes a huge difference maker and he’s extremely ball dominant(major reason it didn’t work in Atlanta). To me he doesn’t really solve any of our problems but just makes the one ball-too many mouths to feed situation worse personally. We could try to swing for Jarrett Allen but we would have to change our starting lineup- can’t see it working with Herb. Other than that not sure if there are any huge stars that fit.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:10 am to Soggymoss
The Washington Wizards plan to sign center Trey Jemison to a 10-day contract out of the NBA G League’s Birmingham Squadron, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Jemison has averaged 13.6 points and 12.3 rebounds in G League this season.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:17 am to Pels_Yaz
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he’s extremely ball dominant
This is the only reason I would be hesitant.
Now if the FO says frick this it’s not working with BI and Zion and they decide to trade BI, then a package of Ingram and Naji for Murray, Okongwu and Griffin along with maybe a pick or two if we could squeeze it would make sense for both sides.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:05 am to Soggymoss
Another reason to trade BI is that he's been pretty healthy this year.
Trade him before he gets hurt.
Trade him before he gets hurt.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:20 pm to ghost2most
Murray Game Winner
Just to add, this is the guy y’all are quickly dismissing and saying no to. He is an alpha leader
Just to add, this is the guy y’all are quickly dismissing and saying no to. He is an alpha leader
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:43 pm to Soggymoss
But who are you moving for him? If it’s Ingram, his Atlanta stint has showed he’s not the wing defender or off-ball creator they thought he could be, so that leaves him needing to strictly playing the 1 and guarding 1s and smaller 2s.
If it’s CJ, even though Murray is shooting it better, he’s not near the shooter CJ is still, so we are downgrading our shooting and making the spacing even worse.
Trading for Murray just feels like a treading water move
If it’s CJ, even though Murray is shooting it better, he’s not near the shooter CJ is still, so we are downgrading our shooting and making the spacing even worse.
Trading for Murray just feels like a treading water move
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:46 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
this is the guy y’all are quickly dismissing and saying no to. He is an alpha leader
Lol no. Definitely not.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:47 pm to Soggymoss
Would love to have a guard like him but it's never going to happen with Griff. I won't even entertain the idea because Griff would never consider it.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:48 pm to Soggymoss
On a 18-23 team where he can’t play alongside a pretty good/elite offensive player and other good talented pieces. The game winners are nice but Im pretty sure Hawk fans are like we traded 3 first rounders for a guy that was suppose to make us a contender not just barely be at play-in.
Honestly I think his best fit would be spurs. They desperately need a ball dominant guard to get pressure off Wemby.
Honestly I think his best fit would be spurs. They desperately need a ball dominant guard to get pressure off Wemby.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:52 pm to Baron
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But who are you moving for him? If it’s Ingram, his Atlanta stint has showed he’s not the wing defender or off-ball creator they thought he could be, so that leaves him needing to strictly playing the 1 and guarding 1s and smaller 2s
Murray is not a max contract. We could actually move Herb and Val and take back Murray and Okongwu and still have plenty of room under the tax.
Even Murray for Herb works even though it puts us back in the tax, and Murray takes Herbs starting spot moving CJ to the 2.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:58 pm to Soggymoss
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Even Murray for Herb works even though it puts us back in the tax, and Murray takes Herbs starting spot moving CJ to the 2.
I just don’t see us being able to guard anyone with that starting 5. I’m not sure how much better that really makes us.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:00 pm to Baron
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I just don’t see us being able to guard anyone with that starting 5. I’m not sure how much better that really makes us.
I stopped reading at trade Herb
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