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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
He's not in a vacuum but Lin is a much better fit. Plus he's probably better for marketing purposes. Which, in a small market, is probably a large consideration.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:58 pm to
Both have have different positives and negatives. Lin can run a second unit and start in a pinch, gives Jrue the ability to play off ball more.

Bledsoe is instant offense.

Both get hurt a lot. I'm honestly ok with getting either of them.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:02 pm to
you're right many of them had lower usage rates than Bledsoe (28.3%).

Conly (26.4%), D'Angelo Russell (26.5%), Derrick Rose (25.7%), and Lowry (24.8%)



But I was also combining usage rate with other stats (like seconds per touch, dribbles per touch, total passes made, passes received, and time of possession) to show that Bledsoe was not a ball hog

for example Bledsoe is below Lowry, IT, Kyrie, Conley, and Westbrook in seconds per touch

Bledsoe is below Lowry, IT, Kyrie, Conley, and Westbrook in dribbles per touch

Bledsoe was 5th in the league last year in total passes made in front of all those guys mentioned.

And received the 7th most passes in the NBA behind Westbrook and IT

Westbrook, IT, and Conley are ahead of Bledsoe in time of possession with Lowry and Kyrie right behind Bledsoe



So maybe Rondo, Russell, and Rose were oversights I apologize.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:07 pm to
It's not like Lin is some great off ball player. He needs the ball in his hands to be most effective same as Bledsoe.

Lin also has an option for next year and Brooklyn seems intent on keeping him while PHX is actively trying to trade Bledsoe.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6504 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:11 pm to
Since when did "in a vacuum" become the trendy thing to say?
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4423 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:12 pm to
Honestly think I'd be ok with Brandon Knight as a consolation prize
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27601 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:14 pm to
Literally any competent guard is needed
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Honestly think I'd be ok with Brandon Knight as a consolation prize


He's been available for free since last season and there are no takers for a reason.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6156 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:20 pm to
Barbosa waived by Suns
Posted by HickfawJim1
Member since Sep 2013
455 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

The Phoenix Suns are waiving guard Leandro Barbosa, league sources tell ESPN.




L or B?
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Jon1798
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
730 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Honestly think I'd be ok with Brandon Knight as a consolation prize



Literally one of the worst players in all of basketball, and probably THE worst contract. Duke fan eh?
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:24 pm to
From Woj on Suns releasing Barbosa:

quote:

Releasing Barbosa creates $3.5M more space, allowing Suns greater flexibility to accept salary dumps attached w/ young assets/draft picks.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27601 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:25 pm to
Make it fricking happen Dell
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Since when did "in a vacuum" become the trendy thing to say?

Well, it's definitely applicable in basketball. Just because a player is better, doesn't necessarily mean that it's a better fit.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:26 pm to
B for Barton? Listening to the latest Lowe Post and Zach was talking about Will Barton being a cap casualty and threw out a price of a 2nd.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13761 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

B for Barton? Listening to the latest Lowe Post and Zach was talking about Will Barton being a cap casualty and threw out a price of a 2nd.


If we could get him for a 2nd, I would do that all day. I am not sure he fits in our TPE though (may be just short).
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30367 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:28 pm to
It would be awesome if we could get Barton with the trade exception and just give up a second.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9256 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:33 pm to
Would love to get Barbosa on a cheap deal.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11393 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:34 pm to
Anyone think that Monte Ellis might be available? He just got a drug suspension for 5 games and the Pacers are rebuilding. 2 years at about 11M per left on his deal. He had a down year, but is 31. Might have another good year left in him..
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I am not sure he fits in our TPE though (may be just short).

Short by like 50k or something.
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