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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I am not sure he fits in our TPE though (may be just short).


It's only like $15k short so it should be ok, you get an extrak $100k in wiggle room.

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As with simultaneous trades, teams are allowed to acquire an extra $100,000 -- so a $1 million credit can be used to acquire $1.1 million in salaries. This credit is often referred to as a Traded Player exception or a trade exception

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Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Anyone think that Monte Ellis might be available? He just got a drug suspension for 5 games and the Pacers are rebuilding. 2 years at about 11M per left on his deal. He had a down year, but is 31. Might have another good year left in him..

He's pretty awful. I'm sure they'd probably give him away for nothing.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:35 pm to
I don't watch Denver games much, but reading their fans it seems Barton is an afterthought for Denver because his game doesn't match the system. Good ball handler and can create offense, but lower IQ ISO scorer with mediocre defense.

ETA- Low risk with only $3M in slaary this year and supposed 2nd round price, but just curious about long term fit.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:36 pm to
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It's only like $15k short so it should be ok, you get an extrak $100k in wiggle room.

That's pretty awesome, I wasn't aware of that.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27601 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:38 pm to
Monta ellis can diaf. Dude is garbage except when he plays against us.
Posted by WitnessTheLitness
Member since Jun 2017
577 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Dude is garbage except when he plays against us.


FACTS.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4423 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:57 pm to
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Literally one of the worst players in all of basketball, and probably THE worst contract. Duke fan eh?




Well, he played at Kentucky so there's that.

But I just know he'd be an upgrade over Quin Cook. I think he scored 40 on us last season.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13761 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:58 pm to
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It's only like $15k short so it should be ok, you get an extrak $100k in wiggle room.
Good info, thanks. FOr a 2nd rounder, would be great.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:07 pm to
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I just know he'd be an upgrade over Quin Cook.


So you want the guy that's making $14 per year for 3 years because he's better than the guy on a minimum contract. You also say you think he scored 40 on us last season. I just looked at his game log and in 4 games vs. the Pels he scored 10, 7, 12, and 11. LINK While that technically does add up to 40, you seemed to be implying he scored 40 in a single game.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6504 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:17 pm to
Would this trade work??

Eric Bledsoe and Tyson Chandler

for

Ajinca, Asik, Q-pon, Moore and 2018 first

*saw some on PR mention it*
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:20 pm to
You need to throw in another 1st at least. Turning Chandler into Asik isn't doing them any favors.
Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:24 pm to
Ya I would throw in another 1st lottery protected pick for their 2nd round pick pretty easily. That's just a 20 something pick for a 30 something pick.
Posted by Jon1798
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
730 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:30 pm to
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Literally one of the worst players in all of basketball, and probably THE worst contract. Duke fan eh?



Well, he played at Kentucky so there's that.

But I just know he'd be an upgrade over Quin Cook. I think he scored 40 on us last season.





lol, I'm sorry. I wasn't implying Brandon played for Duke.

Just to be crystal on this stance. Out of 468 qualifying NBA players, Brandon Knight finished 464 in real plus minus last season. When I say he was literally one of the worst basketball players in the league, I mean LITERALLY.

And he is owed about $45 million over the next 3 seasons. On no planet are the Pels, or any other team touching that contract.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4423 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:39 pm to
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So you want the guy that's making $14 per year for 3 years because he's better than the guy on a minimum contract. You also say you think he scored 40 on us last season. I just looked at his game log and in 4 games vs. the Pels he scored 10, 7, 12, and 11. LINK / While that technically does add up to 40, you seemed to be implying he scored 40 in a single game.


Ok, so I was off a season and by 10pts (which is why I said I think). But the guy is 25 and $14mil isn't much mony in this NBA economy. He avg 19 pts a yr ago on 45% shooting from 2 and 35% from the 3
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11392 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
He's been awful with the Pacers. But he was awesome with the Mavs a couple of seasons ago. If the Pacers give him away, he'd fill a big hole for us. Could we trade more Moore and Ajinca for him?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
He's garbage. He got 20 minutes per game on a trash Suns team last season. He's definitely a negative asset.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37092 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Could we trade more Moore and Ajinca for him?

At this point, Moore is a better player than Monta.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4423 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Just to be crystal on this stance. Out of 468 qualifying NBA players, Brandon Knight finished 464 in real plus minus last season. When I say he was literally one of the worst basketball players in the league, I mean LITERALLY.

And he is owed about $45 million over the next 3 seasons. On no planet are the Pels, or any other team touching that contract.



Well, I didn't know all that. But he Avg 19 pts a game the year before, not sure what the fall of this year was about. But I was advocating to go all out and get the guy, just would be a nice off piece if everything else falls through. 14mill per isn't that bad in this NBA, plus he's only 25.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32311 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:52 pm to
I wish people would stop flaunting Moore as trade bait for big names who are worse just to unload ajinca.

Unloading asik, sure. But Moore is a MLE Level contract that id say is hard to find that level of production.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11392 posts
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:53 pm to
I don't know, Ellis can play PG and he is a better scorer. Moore is probably a better shooter and defender. Ellis is more expensive, but less years left on the contract. If we could shed Ajinca in the deal, that might be attractive. In the right situation, I think Ellis could have one more great year. Big gamble I guess. But he's kind of local and might feel like he has something to prove..
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