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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:56 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:56 pm to TigerinATL
(Norris Cole nods in agreement)
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:16 pm to cgrand
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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 9m9 minutes ago
Sources: Indiana has waived center Kevin Seraphin, who had guarantee date on the upcoming season of his deal.
Seraphin was set to make $1.9 million. Not a good sign for the Ajinca dump market.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:51 pm to TigerinATL
Babbitt agreed for 1 year deal with Atlanta.
1,9 millions (minimum).
1,9 millions (minimum).
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:14 pm to pawel
quote:Was thinking he was a possibility for Pels depending on what happens with Cunningham.
Babbitt agreed for 1 year deal with Atlanta.
1,9 millions (minimum).
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:17 pm to NOSHAU
IMO Dante has agreed a deal with Pels. Just waiting for salary dump...
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:23 pm to pawel
I agree pawel...not much was heard about him all off-season...
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:25 pm to BallHawk
The Pels took a chance on him when no other team would touch him, he likes living in Louisiana, and he's a favorite of the coaches. I don't think there was ever much doubt he was coming back.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:30 pm to TigerinATL
Also as MM noted - probably no one is willing to pay him even declined amount...
I expect that in the same moment we will hear about salary dump and Dante will be announced...
I expect that in the same moment we will hear about salary dump and Dante will be announced...
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:05 pm to pawel
quote:Yeah, I was expecting that we would ship QPon and cash somewhere and sign Cunningham for about $3,000,000 or so. Alternatively, if they can work a buyout for Asik and stretch him, we can sign Cunningham into that slot.
Also as MM noted - probably no one is willing to pay him even declined amount...
I expect that in the same moment we will hear about salary dump and Dante will be announced...
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:14 pm to NOSHAU
The idea is that QPon could contribute so we may end up sending out Ajinca and cash instead or buy him out.
Stretching Ajinca is another possibility that would cost us about $1.6m a year for 3 years but give us about $3.2m in cap space to pay DC.
Stretching Ajinca is another possibility that would cost us about $1.6m a year for 3 years but give us about $3.2m in cap space to pay DC.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:21 pm to teke184
quote:
Stretching Ajinca is another possibility that would cost us about $1.6m a year for 3 year
He's owed $10.2 this year and next, it'd be about $2 million for 5 years.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:29 pm to teke184
quote:
Thought he was expiring.
We fricking wish. Dell was handing out multiyear deals like they were going out of style (which they were)
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:10 pm to Fun Bunch
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We fricking wish. Dell was handing out multiyear deals like they were going out of style (which they were)
in the long run it made sense if the cap was spiking like mad, but it slowed down and it bit him in the arse severely.
but like many here, I'd still have only given asik a 3yr deal paying slightly more annually. (history of back problems for big men = one injury and its over)
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:22 pm to teke184
Ajinca isn't a problem. He's not unplayable like Asik. Is he worth $5M, no, but he's not hurting us nearly as much as Asik, and he is literally the only backup big we have. We can't get rid of him just to sign Cunningham, or another guard. You get rid of Ajinca and you have to bring in another big.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:25 pm to TigerinATL
Are you sure?
I thought it was 3.2M over 7.
2M for 5 is much better
I thought it was 3.2M over 7.
2M for 5 is much better
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:54 pm to Aussie_Pelican
quote:
Are you sure?
I thought it was 3.2M over 7.
2M for 5 is much better
IIRC its guaranteed salary remaining divided by years remaining x2 + 1. I think you're mixing up Ajinca and Asik's #s
Asik has ~25mil and 3 years remaining goes to 3.57mil per year for 7 years
Ajinca has ~10.25mil and 2 years remaining goes to 2.05mil per year for 5 years
quote:
Ajinca isn't a problem. He's not unplayable like Asik. Is he worth $5M, no, but he's not hurting us nearly as much as Asik, and he is literally the only backup big we have. We can't get rid of him just to sign Cunningham, or another guard. You get rid of Ajinca and you have to bring in another big.
Assuming Cousins and AD play about 70 total minutes, you'd still need 26 minutes of "bigs". Last year, Solo played about 4MPG as a PF and Cunningham played about 19.5MPG as a PF.
I think Ajinca is replaceable if Diallo can contribute this year, but if we're not in the luxury tax or need the space, keeping Ajinca/Asik for possible filler $ later on in the season would be a better bet. Their value is already low, can't get any worse, maybe create some value if they can perform decently at times.
And assuming we keep: Holiday, Davis, Cousins, Rondo, Solo...you'd only have 19.5mil in $ to send out not including Asik or Ajinca. Now if its a trade of Holiday for a wing, more than likely we won't need it but I'm almost positive those 5 are not going to be touched.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:55 pm to htran90
quote:
@kc1nyk? @kylecohenNBA 45 minutes ago
Report: UFA SF-PF Dante Cunningham in the mix for minimum deal with #Timberwolves.
This guy isn't verified and only has 1700 followers, so take it with a grain of salt. If it's true I'm guessing this means the Pels are trying to bring him back on a pay cut, possibly low enough salary that they don't have to dump anyone else. Minny would certainly be a threat to take Cunningham, especially if he feels wronged by a low ball offer now that the market's dried up. However, this also could just be posturing. Getting Dante back for the minimum or just above it would mean this offseason went about as well as possible other than the Jrue overpay.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:03 pm to TigerinATL
There have been reports that Minny was interested in Cunningham, but that he wasn't willing to discuss a min deal yet. This might be a shot across the bow from his agent.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:15 pm to htran90
Would be fantastic for the Pels if CD gets the available remaining big minutes. Especially if he scores and rebounds.
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