re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

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By my count we have about $6 million before we hit the tax and 2 roster spots available. In theory we want to add a PG, a wing shooter and bring back Cunningham but can only do 2 of those. So what gives?

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How much is the full MLE? We can't offer the full amount without hitting the tax right? That's assuming we don't shed any current contracts in the process. I know this has been discussed before but I'm just trying to understand our cap situation.

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How much is the full MLE? We can't offer the full amount without hitting the tax right?

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$8.4 million so not only would we hit the tax if we used it, we'd also be hard capped and couldn't go above the $125 million tax apron for any reason. If you use the $8.4 million MLE and bring Cunningham back for $3 million, you're bumping up against the apron and don't even have the ability to add a minmium contract.

There is a little bit of wiggle room in the numbers because I saw conflicting numbers on Solomon Hill and went with the higher amount ($500k extra) and for tax purposes not all of minimum contracts count. But it's pretty obvious this team has had limited options from the beginning without dumping salary in a trade.

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half the team are D League players (Cook, Diallo, Toupane, Jackson, Crawford)

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I think Cook has shown some promise in his limited time with the team. Crawford proved last year he isn't a D League player. Diallo could potentially be a solid end of bench guy this year.

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or dead(Asik, QPon)

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Overall, I agree with this but Qpon could surprise us and do something this year. I'm not counting on it. But I'm not completely dismissing that notion either.

That contract was horrible the second we offered it. Still haunting us.

We are in a really bad spot.

I guess I just didn't realize going into the offseason just how dire the situation is.

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$8.4 million so not only would we hit the tax if we used it, we'd also be hard capped and couldn't go above the $125 million tax apron for any reason. If you use the $8.4 million MLE and bring Cunningham back for $3 million, you're bumping up against the apron and don't even have the ability to add a minmium contract.

There is a little bit of wiggle room in the numbers because I saw conflicting numbers on Solomon Hill and went with the higher amount ($500k extra) and for tax purposes not all of minimum contracts count. But it's pretty obvious this team has had limited options from the beginning without dumping salary in a trade.

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Is there any way we don't make a move at some point to shed some salary this year? Obviously, we're not going into the tax. And I can't see us rolling with what we have if we're trying to make the playoffs and convincing DMC to stay. We don't have to make a huge move to make the playoffs imo. We just need to add another solid role player.

Right now our only real change in the roster from last year is losing Frazier and Cunningham (assuming we don't resign him). That's not an improvement imo. I'm not counting adding Jackson because it's unrealistic to expect a 2nd round pick to do much for a team in his rookie year, if at all.

So if we sit tight, we're basically hoping the Jrue, AD and Boogie core takes a HUGE leap this season and it's enough to improve the team without making any changes, really. That's terrifying

If what MM said about Asik being the thing stopping us from making moves is true, you have to think they'll bite the bullet eventually. Either they'll give Brooklyn another asset to take Asik for Lin or they'll stretch Asik whether he takes a buyout or not. The plan can't be to go into the season with the situation as bad as you illustrated

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The plan can't be to go into the season with the situation as bad as you illustrated

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that's very charitable.

over the past 5 years, has there been a roster that wasnt half full with d-leaguers and Chinese league stars?

hes never playing another meaningful minute in the NBA. and if his health is a dire as it looked, he might not be playing any where. so, he has no financial reason to take a smaller buy out.

the Pels were dumb enough to give a 30 yo big w/ a limited place in the modern game and w/ injury history a 5 year deal. reap what you sow.

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hes never playing another meaningful minute in the NBA. and if his health is a dire as it looked, he might not be playing any where. so, he has no financial reason to take a smaller buy out.

the Pels were dumb enough to give a 30 yo big w/ a limited place in the modern game and w/ injury history a 5 year deal. reap what you sow.

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You're 100% correct but I just want to punch you in the face for describing how fricked we are. Asik is so useless to this team. Demps has no one to blame but himself.