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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, and there is a reason his style of play isn't winning anything and why PHO moved on from him after that one magical year.
Lol and everyone stated their main issue last year was not having a point guard. They were better with CP3.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 8:36 am
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:35 am to Epic Cajun
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So when it's proven that he's a good offensive player you move the goalposts to the defensive side?
I never said Trae didn't have impact on offense. I think he's overrated and won't play within a system, but he can accumulate stats for Ortg and other analytics.
Literally why ATL is giving up on him and why they have the #1 pick.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Whatever you say bud.
You can go cry in the corner by yourself if we get Trae Young.
in other news, the odds on where BI ends up has changed a bit.
Still Pels the favorite at -110 and 76ers at +450, but Rockets are now next at +600 instead of Magic who are now at +700.
Hawks are next at +850.
Only change was the flip flop of Rockets and Magic.
Trae Young still favored to stay at -185, then Spurs at +320, then Lakers at +500. We're at +2200
You can go cry in the corner by yourself if we get Trae Young.
in other news, the odds on where BI ends up has changed a bit.
Still Pels the favorite at -110 and 76ers at +450, but Rockets are now next at +600 instead of Magic who are now at +700.
Hawks are next at +850.
Only change was the flip flop of Rockets and Magic.
Trae Young still favored to stay at -185, then Spurs at +320, then Lakers at +500. We're at +2200
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Literally why ATL is giving up on him and why they have the #1 pick.
To be fair, flattened lottery odds are why they have the #1 pick.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
The counter to your argument that Trae won't play in the pick and roll is that Zion would be by far his best partner in that action (both with Z setting the pick and reverse pick and rolls with Trae setting for Z). Trae can also provide space for Zion. They don't operate in the same space instantly making our best player better. Also, he has not had one shooter with the gravity that Trey Murphy provides. Bogi can shoot but he doesn't provide the space that Trey does. He also has not had a perimeter defender even close to Herb to offload his defensive load and responsibilities. It a much better fit than BI and is definitely a better fit than Trae currently has.
I understand the price is high. But it is worth the swing, especially if we could swing a third team for BI who could provide the lion's share of the picks in the deal.
I understand the price is high. But it is worth the swing, especially if we could swing a third team for BI who could provide the lion's share of the picks in the deal.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:38 am to Pels_Yaz
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Yes but then you added
So even you admit I did not "start" it off with a secondary source.
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you added 2 long paragraphs about ringer rankings but now you’re acting like its not important.
Now you're moving goalposts b/c of being owned hard.
You should just give up.
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You backtrack like crazy
He says without irony.
Seriously. You're digging a bigger hole.
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Trae has gone to eastern conf finals
3 years ago. What has he done since with a better roster?
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but you ignore that as well.
Again, this is a lie. I have stated he had an outlier, magical run...3 years ago. That's how he got in that 3rd team All-NBA range.
What has he done since?
How many All-NBA teams has he made since?
And, please note, this is with better rosters.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:38 am to Epic Cajun
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So when it's proven that he's a good offensive player you move the goalposts to the defensive side?
This is what he does to try to win arguments. Some of his points have merit but then he loses people by completely ignoring or not acknowledging what a player does well.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:39 am to ThePistol
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The counter to your argument that Trae won't play in the pick and roll is that Zion would be by far his best partner in that action (both with Z setting the pick and reverse pick and rolls with Trae setting for Z). Trae can also provide space for Zion. They don't operate in the same space
They don't play in the same space only if we're abandoning point Zion
That's a major issue
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:40 am to TigerinATL
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To be fair, flattened lottery odds are why they have the #1 pick.
Yeah but the giving up on him is the big part.
If he was this franchise-saving elite guy, ATL would never consider trading him.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:40 am to TeddyPadillac
I feel the pipe dream is to have Sengun over Trae tbh. Then grab Tyus Jones in FA and he can be our PG coming off the bench. He grabbed 17 assists in one game playing for the wizards lol.
I won’t be mad with Trae though, but feel like we shouldn’t jump the gun so fast.
I won’t be mad with Trae though, but feel like we shouldn’t jump the gun so fast.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 8:42 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Are Galactic and Jester the same person?
Curious from both: Do you think Ingram is better than Young?
Curious from both: Do you think Ingram is better than Young?
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now you're moving goalposts b/c of being owned hard. You should just give up.
So you admit majority of your argument was based off ringer rankings. I forgot you can only move the goalposts when you argue right?
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I have stated he had an outlier, magical run...3 years ago. That's how he got in that 3rd team All-NBA range. What has he done since? How many All-NBA teams has he made since? And, please note, this is with better rosters.
Do they much better roster? Or these just assumptions you’re making because you think Trae is the issue and not the roster? Please go ahead and move the goalposts as you do when you respond.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:42 am to TeddyPadillac
What’s betting odds on Murray?
I don’t bet so don’t have any if those apps to see
Interesting that Houston moved up that far, I could see Ingram being appealing to them now that Bridges is gone. They can dangle Ingram and Phoenix picks back to Phoenix for Durant
I don’t bet so don’t have any if those apps to see
Interesting that Houston moved up that far, I could see Ingram being appealing to them now that Bridges is gone. They can dangle Ingram and Phoenix picks back to Phoenix for Durant
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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3 years ago. What has he done since with a better roster?
Who was the Hawks 2nd best player this year? should be an easy one.
Who was the Hawks 2nd best player to start last year?
Who was the Hawks 2nd best player to start 3 years ago?
They've been pretty pathetic, and their roster has been shite since Trae's been there.
DeAndre Hunter isn't that good, and neither was John Collins. Until they got Murray, there was no one else on the team capable of creating any type of offense, which is why the offense was terrible when Trae wasn't in the game. The fact that they are pretty much a top 5 offense with him on the court and bottom 5 with him off should tell you all you need to know about Trae, and their roster. His on/off before Murray got there was nearing 10 point differential, and with Murray it's been around 3.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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If he was this franchise-saving elite guy, ATL would never consider trading him.
Can you name one "franchise changing elite guy" who was traded recently and it worked out? Kawhi in 2019 worked out but they sent everything out and got him for a one year rental. We won't get free agents at that level to sign here. The only way this works for us is if Zion becomes THAT guy and we get him the right supporting cast. An elite pick and roll guy that provides a ton of spacing along with a first team all defense guy and a 6'10" shooter who is one of the best spacers in the league is a damn good start.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:45 am to Soggymoss
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What’s betting odds on Murray?
He's doesn't have any odds to bet on. It's typically only high profile players they give odds on. It's just Lebron, PG, Klay, BI, and Trae that have any odds.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:45 am to ThePistol
Is there a way to filter a thread to only show CajunMD posts?
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:47 am to jmcwhrter
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Is there a way to filter a thread to only show CajunMD posts?
why would you want that. bi, herb, trey, 6 firsts, dd, and zion's dietician was the latest proposal for trae.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:48 am to TeddyPadillac
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He's doesn't have any odds to bet on. It's typically only high profile players they give odds on. It's just Lebron, PG, Klay, BI, and Trae that have any odds.
Gotcha. I feel like there’s a three team deal that would be great for Pels Rockets and Hawks that can be completed before the draft starts tonight.
Something along:
Pels: JSJ, Trae
Rockets: Ingram, Capella
Hawks: Whitmore, Dyson, salary from Houston, #3, 3 picks from Pels
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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They don't play in the same space only if we're abandoning point Zion
A player that can actually get the ball to Zion in two man actions decreases the need for Zion to initiate every possession. He just so happens to also possess elite court gravity. Yes, I know what his percentages are, but that doesn't change the fact that he provides elite spacing.
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