re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

quote:

---

Why are you so willing to look past Trey's flaws? Is this a backup quarterback situation?

---

Saying that Trey is a better fit next to Zion isn’t overlooking his flaws, it’s saying that his positive attributes are a better fit with our star. If your boyfriend would shoot open 3’s instead of dribbling into a 15 foot contested midrange shot every time he has a chance this wouldn’t be a conversation.

quote:

---

I'd trade Hawkins and a 1st for Kessler and not really think twice

---

That’s the deal I’ve been pushing for a while. Not sure Jazz would do it, but makes a ton of sense on our side

quote:

---

You also can't just dump BI because that will make you look like you are choosing money over winning, and that's a very quick way to lose a team. Some version of BI for Allen is about the only realistic trade that is low value while not potentially losing the team.

---

I don't know if people just don't realize this fact, or weren't around when this happened with CP3/West/Chandler. The entire reason CP3 wanted out is b/c of idiot Shinn trying to dump Chandler just to save money after we just had 2nd best record in the west losing game 7 to the defending champs. It completely soured the team b/c they knew the team was more worried about money than winning.
This new franchise is making tons of money, and are in a much better financial situation than that 2008 team, but the fact that we'd trade someone like Brandon Ingram and get a bit worse just so we can avoid the tax is a really really really bad look and a good way to lose the lockerroom.

quote:

---

The entire reason CP3 wanted out is b/c of idiot Shinn trying to dump Chandler just to save money after we just had 2nd best record in the west losing game 7 to the defending champs.

---

Not remotely the same situation. I’m not even sure how you’re drawing parallels between the two? We were an 8 seed that was swept out of the first round last year. And I’m not sure we would technically get worse by trading Ingram depending on what we get back. That CP3 team was probably the best New Orleans team of all time.

quote:

---

I'd trade Hawkins and a 1st for Kessler and not really think twice

---

I know Hawkins hasn’t had a great summer league but I don’t understand this thinking to overpay for Kessler. He hasn’t looked amazing in summer league either. This is what happens when you’re desperate for a center.

quote:

---

We are currently at $169,917,491 with 12 on the roster.
Karlo and Reeves making $1.1M each makes it $172,231,797 with the tax line at $170,814,000.
That's a $1.418M difference to get under it.
Kessler makes $1.56M less than Hawkins, so if we made that trade, we'd be about $140K under the tax.

---

Yep, this is exactly what I was looking at in my post. Skim right below the tax and have a top 9 of:

Zion
BI
CJ
DJ
Herb
Trey
Kessler
Theis
Jose

(I just listed them by salary)

That is a very good roster, but would definitely take some good coaching to get the optimum players on the court together.

quote:

---

Kessler’s game has issues but he is considered an elite rim defender. If that is what we need and can cover his other deficiencies, it fills a hole.

---

Sure but is he worth Hawkins AND a first? Seems like an overpay.

quote:

---

Not remotely the same situation.

---

No it isn't the same. It's similar. Stop worrying about records between the two.

quote:

---

I’m not even sure how you’re drawing parallels between the two?

---

It's real simple. It's breaking up team chemistry and getting worse just for the sake of saving money.

quote:

---

And I’m not sure we would technically get worse by trading Ingram depending on what we get back.

---

That's the whole point of what i'm saying. If we traded him and got back good value, then it doesn't matter that we got under the tax, as long as the trade appears to make us better on the court.
If you trade him and get back some shite role players while dumping salary, making it obvious we just dumped BI for money savings, that's the situation i'm talking about. How can you not draw parallels here?

quote:

---

If you trade him and get back some shite role players while dumping salary, making it obvious we just dumped BI for money savings, that's the situation i'm talking about. How can you not draw parallels here?

---

I think they'd just let him walk before doing this.

quote:

---

We entered the postseason as the 8th seed in the west. We were not tied for 6th last year. The point is trading BI is nothing similar to trading Chandler. We’re not close to contention like that CP3 team was.

---

I’m not sure why a Pelicans fan feels the need to work so hard at down playing their own team, but their record was literally tied for 6th best in the west. 2nd all time. It’s a weird flex to quote someone discussing team chemistry by mentioning team records, especially when it’s the closest team we’ve had to that exact thing.