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re: Murray to Pels is OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL
Posted on 7/4/24 at 11:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 7/4/24 at 11:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Not really relevant to the post I replied to and what I said
And that helped us how?
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 11:53 pm to Dantheman504
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Adding Murray also lets us maximize our offense by having a PG and his defense allows for Herb to come of the bench.
Not going to happen.
Murray + Herb + BI/Trey + Zion is enough offense. It makes way more sense to bring a really good offensive player off of the bench (CJ) than it does a stud defender.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:54 am to THRILLHO
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It makes way more sense to bring a really good offensive player off of the bench (CJ) than it does a stud defender.
It makes more sesse to bring our starting SG and backup SG from the bench and start our starting SF and backup SF?
Instead of playing (1) SG + (1) SF and bringing in (1) SG + (1) SF.
Yall are obsessed with putting CJ/ Hawk together instead of realizing:
Hawk/ Herb is the paring needed off the bench.
Murray was brought in to start with CJ...
You want to roll with a CJ/ Hawk backcourt? Or put either at SF?
Super efficient way to split up the minutes of our only 2 true SG's and evaluate our (2) assets with a murky future..
Herb Jones is 6-8 210 and is currently our #2 SF.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 7:02 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:07 am to Dantheman504
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It makes way more sense to bring a really good offensive player off of the bench (CJ) than it does a stud defender.
And what do you think Hawk is?
We have to see if he is that player and put a strong defender with him to limit his negative impact there until he improves.
Why not bring in your "best offense"
AND
Bring a stud defender (Herb) + Really good offensive player (hopefully Hawk) off the bench.
And guess what? If Hawk isn't that guy and CJ declines then they are both gone.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:14 am to Dantheman504
Murray/ Jose
CJ/ Hawk
Trey/ Herb
Zion/ Trey
Center/ center
Both your starters and bench have a 1,2,3,4,5 like a real basketball team and maximizing your best players.
If Herb is going to close games anyway then I'd much rather him coming off the bench to gaurd tired starters and backups with fresh legs while we already have the lead..
CJ/ Hawk
Trey/ Herb
Zion/ Trey
Center/ center
Both your starters and bench have a 1,2,3,4,5 like a real basketball team and maximizing your best players.
If Herb is going to close games anyway then I'd much rather him coming off the bench to gaurd tired starters and backups with fresh legs while we already have the lead..
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 7:16 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:28 am to Dantheman504
Doing that puts him as a favorite for Sixth Man if he is already All Defense first team.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:33 am to teke184
All of his stats should increase.
It should also help sustain leads and prevent other teams coming back into the game.
Get lead + keep lead + gain lead + put em to sleep
Instead of Herb being our #5 player on the starters he becomes our #1 2nd unit guy.
It should also help sustain leads and prevent other teams coming back into the game.
Get lead + keep lead + gain lead + put em to sleep
Instead of Herb being our #5 player on the starters he becomes our #1 2nd unit guy.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:39 am to Dantheman504
I would bet that Herb starts over Trey
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:59 am to Epic Cajun
This would be the only other thing that makes sense.
Not sold on Jose/ Hawk/ Trey off the bench tho. In that scenario Herb would prob stay in and Trey would play the 4.
So same plan except with Herb starting instead of Trey. Neither at SG.
Not sold on Jose/ Hawk/ Trey off the bench tho. In that scenario Herb would prob stay in and Trey would play the 4.
So same plan except with Herb starting instead of Trey. Neither at SG.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:15 am to Dantheman504
It really doesn’t matter who starts. Herb, Trey, and CJ all averaged about 30 minutes per game last year.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:24 am to Mickey Goldmill
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It really doesn’t matter who starts. Herb, Trey, and CJ all averaged about 30 minutes per game last year.
Getting leads and keeping leads doesn't matter?
Trey should start and Herb should finish. I agree none of the inbetween matters as long as everyone is getting their minutes, Hawk/ CJ aren't on the floor together, and only PG's + Zion play PG.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 8:25 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:33 am to Dantheman504
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Trey should start and Herb should finish.
Will never happen under Willie. Also you want his defense to set the tone.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:43 am to Pels_Yaz
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Trey should start and Herb should finish.
Will never happen under Willie. Also you want his defense to set the tone.
Herb closing games will most certainly happen unless we are down big.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:45 am to Dantheman504
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Trey should start and Herb should finish
Both should be on the court at the end of games unless Trey is just absolutely off.
End of games should always have these 5 on the floor if ingram is truly traded
Murray
CJ
Herb
Trey
Z
If ingram isn't traded then Herb will go to the bench. 4 shot creators in cj zion ingram and Murray in crunch time with Trey sniping is wild.
that lineup can cheat in the paint with doubles on bigs because they'll be quick and long enough to switch and recover. Of course this only works if Zion is truly a skinny boy to start the season and takes another step on defense. And I think he will
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 8:48 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:56 am to whatiknowsofar
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End of games should always have these 5 on the floor if ingram is truly traded
Murray
CJ
Herb
Trey
Z
This isn't dependent on what center we end up with or the score of the game?
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:57 am to Dantheman504
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Herb closing games will most certainly happen unless we are down big.
Yes Herb will always close but hes not coming off the bench. The discussion will always be whether CJ or Trey will start.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:05 am to Pels_Yaz
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The discussion will always be whether CJ or Trey will start
Not necessarily. I'm pretty sure discussion was always Herb vs Trey unless CJ gets moved or is unable to start.
CJ playing PG as a weak defender and out of position on offense made Herb's jobs harder and more needed.
Getting Murray fixes that and adds defense back to the starting lineup while minimizing CJ's opportunities for mistake.
Murray + CJ should have a better +/- than CJ/ Herb.
Do yall really think we just got Murray and kept CJ to start Murray/ Herb at 1 and 2?
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 9:06 am
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:07 am to Dantheman504
CJ off the bench with Hawk 3rd string?
Hell yeah let's shrink CJ's trade value as low as we can AND limit minutes for his future replacemt.
Hell yeah let's shrink CJ's trade value as low as we can AND limit minutes for his future replacemt.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:08 am to Dantheman504
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This isn't dependent on what center we end up with or the score of the game?
We're not getting a center that can crack that lineup imo. They'll either be just as slow as Val, too small anyways, dumb, etc.
I want the Warriors death lineup. Zion with 4 willing 3pt shooters.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:10 am to whatiknowsofar
I think the path forward is pretty clear. CJ starts this year, Trey comes off the bench. Next offseason they look to move CJ as an expiring contract, and Trey moves into the starting five permanently.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 9:11 am
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