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re: Murray to Pels is OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL

Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:22 pm to
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Again, I think CJ can be very important for this team but Trey is the future and probably should start. I just don’t understand why people think CJ won’t accept a bench role?


I don't understand this logic. If McCollum should be OK coming off the bench, why wouldn't Murphy or Jones? If it doesn't matter that much and he'll still get top 5 minutes, then all should be fine with it. So why does it matter?

The simple truth is that it does matter to players. Good players don't want to be bench players or role players. We can talk about sacrificing for the betterment of the team. But that's not really a thing that players want to do.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27518 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:24 pm to
CJ just talked about this too. Dude ain't coming off the bench
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:24 pm to
If we want to truly build around 275lb Zion, then we don’t need a center.
We need another Trey, and PG is a better Trey.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3387 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:25 pm to
Dream scenario is trading BI for Sengun or doing a three way trade if Houston doesn’t want BI.

BI to LAC, PG to Htown and we get Sengun.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72157 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:28 pm to
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Um did Griff cook?


Absolutely
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6525 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:28 pm to
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Sorry you said it made it easier. Signing an undrafted guy to your summer league squad has no effect on trading a rotation player on your team


All I said was that maybe just maybe the team really liked the PF we signed (makes sense if we signed him) and that made it easier being comfortable with letting go of Nance and Dyson, while signing JRE (2 way player and current competition to current 2 way player).

Yes the 2 way player has no chance of a roster spot battling a former 2 way player, an empty 3rd string spot, and 2 empty center spots...

I even said its food for thought and that I could be reading into it. Clearly your "thoughts" are just argue, argue , argue...
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:28 pm to
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CJ just talked about this too. Dude ain't coming off the bench


Ok say CJ aint ok with this. And its clear our team is better with Trey starting with Herb, are you guys ok just starting CJ technically for optics? While Trey who’s due for a big contract and may make the starters better stays on the bench?
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14260 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:29 pm to
Dyson needs to go somewhere he can either figure it out or bust. Not sure the Hawks are the right spot either for him.

Love this trade for yall
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:30 pm to
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I even said its food for thought and that I could be reading into it. Clearly your "thoughts" are just argue, argue , argue...


Im not arguing. You asked a question? I said No. That was my food for thought. I don’t think signing guys to your summer league squad have ANY effect on free agents or making trades.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5406 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:34 pm to
Bro landed Murray giving up scrubs and crap picks, he COOKED
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:34 pm to
I got news for all of you, it’s a 100% certain that BI is going to the Magic or Sixers so we can save some money and not be a tax team, b/c after this trade we sit at $159M with just 10 players, and we still need a starting center, a backup center, and a backup PF, and we only have $13M to acquire that.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3387 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:34 pm to
It’s also Willie decision and I feel like he rather have CJ start over Trey.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11377 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:38 pm to
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Ok say CJ aint ok with this. And its clear our team is better with Trey starting with Herb, are you guys ok just starting CJ technically for optics? While Trey who’s due for a big contract and may make the starters better stays on the bench?



It all depends on who is still here. I believe that our current backcourt is set with Murray and McCollum. If Ingram stays, he's the SF. If he leaves, Jones is the SF. The only way Murphy starts (barring injury) are if two people leave, Ingram or McCollum and Jones.

If the team goes to McCollum and tells him that they want him to come off the bench (in a diminished role), he would do it. But he would ask for a trade.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37054 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:40 pm to
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I got news for all of you, it’s a 100% certain that BI is going to the Magic or Sixers so we can save some money and not be a tax team, b/c after this trade we sit at $159M with just 10 players, and we still need a starting center, a backup center, and a backup PF, and we only have $13M to acquire that.

That’s another reason why I like the BI to sixers, pick(s) to Utah, and Kessler and Reed (and picks(s)) to the Pels. It cuts about 26 mil in salary and fills 2 of those 3 holes. We could then bring back Naji or find another backup PF.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72157 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:45 pm to
Someone will find a way to bash what is unequivocally the best trade the pels have made ever

I guess the results will dictate the how true that statement is, but no one thought Murray was available for anything less than Ingram

We won this trade by a fricking mile
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23487 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:53 pm to
So the Pels now have two young all-defensive caliber players on the perimeter on reasonable salaries for a long time. That is some excellent work.

I hope we can extend Trey and bring back Naji also.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
2662 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:58 pm to
I honestly think this team with Murray is better off keeping Ingram and trading CJ.

CJ is old. Has had health issues. And at the ceiling if he’s healthy all year the Pelicans are basically the Blazers from a half decade ago with Dame and CJ that couldn’t go anywhere in the Playoffs?

I’d rather trade CJ. But it is interesting the logjam we’ve got at everyone PF and under. Shame to give up Daniels. But there’s only so many people that can play between Murray, Hawkins, CJ, Ingram, Herb, Zion, Trey, etc.

Just put Zion and Trey at C and play them all
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4453 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:03 pm to
Been watching Murray highlights. He’s a really good fit.

Trade BI, and get a good center plus picks.

Move CJ into a super 6th man role, he’ll still get 25-30 minutes per game.

Try and make a big move using CJ’s contract at the deadline
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 11:06 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:07 pm to
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honestly think this team with Murray is better off keeping Ingram and trading CJ.


That is very obvious, but it’s obvious we will move BI, not CJ, even though moving CJ for Isaac and cap space would be the best move we could make right now.

Murray/Herb/BI/Trey/Zion is a really good lineup.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23487 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:09 pm to
I would invest in Trey and bring back Naji as a glue guy off the bench.

I would move on from BI almost specifically because of his contract situation and Trey. I would let CJ stay around as a role player/3 pt shooter/vet leader; however a closing lineup with Murray, Jones, Zion, and Murphy, and Naji(or stud center) is appealing defensively.
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