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re: Murray to Pels is OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL

Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:40 pm to
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CJ goes to the bench or he’s traded. That’s the ultimatum. Herb and Trey are starters, that’s non negotiable


No.

You do not move a 30mil player to the bench.

(Especially when you just traded for the guy who actually compliments him in the starting lineup)

CJ starts.

You do not just bench the 30mil player for someone who is better or surpasses him. He gets traded.

Start CJ or trade CJ. No inbewteen.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Bdnp1
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:44 pm to
Ingram won’t be here anyway .

CJ will probably start it’ll just be DM, CJ , herb , Zion and whatever center we end up with .

I think cj efficiency will go up a lot at SG without the primary ball handling role . He was an elite 3 pt shooter let’s not forget . I reckon cj flourishes from this trade
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:51 pm to
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CJ goes to the bench or he’s traded. That’s the ultimatum. Herb and Trey are starters, that’s non negotiable


lol no
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:52 pm to
It's not that hard, we saw it with JV how a player can start and be benched at the same time. And unless it's extreme, it's not too noticeable.
Posted by From Rice to Ingram
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:52 pm to
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No.

You do not move a 30mil player to the bench.

(Especially when you just traded for the guy who actually compliments him in the starting lineup)

CJ starts.

You do not just bench the 30mil player for someone who is better or surpasses him. He gets traded.

Start CJ or trade CJ. No inbewteen.


There are arguments to be made for CJ starting, but how much he makes should not be one of them.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:53 pm to
There is no scenario in which Willie moves Herb to the bench. None.

Do you guys actually follow the Pels, or do you just play 2K?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Start CJ or trade CJ. No inbewteen.



I don’t agree but I do agree he will end up starting and having Murray will help him tremendously. Now we have to find a legit center that pairs as well with Z as Murray does with CJ.

And let’s be honest, we’re going to need Trey’s bench scoring.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:56 pm to
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And let’s be honest, we’re going to need Trey’s bench scoring.


Its one thing that Trey can’t start for BI but now we’re benching Trey for CJ. Again, I think CJ can be very important for this team but Trey is the future and probably should start. I just don’t understand why people think CJ won’t accept a bench role?
Posted by THRILLHO
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:57 pm to
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You do not just bench the 30mil player for someone who is better or surpasses him. He gets traded.



The salary shouldn't make a difference in the lineups.

Murray/Herb/BI doesn't work great in terms of spacing unless all three shoot near their peak percentages.

Murray/CJ/BI works, but we'd be bringing our (arguably) 2nd best player off of the bench. That might make sense if your 2nd best player is a stud on offense, but not a 3&D player like Herb. You want him defending the opponent's best wing whenever possible, so bringing him off the bench limits that opportunity..

I really think that we need to trade BI to balance the team out. Or get nuts and package him or CJ with Herb for a stud wing or 5. Murray/Herb/Trey is a really good/balanced starting backcourt, and we have two talented guys getting in the way of that. I don't trust Willie to figure this all out, so simplify it for him.
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:59 pm to
Our bench should be stronger this year. We have shooting options up the wazoo with Trey, Hawkins, Reeves, Ryan off the bench with Jose as well.

Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:59 pm to
We pulled the trigger on Nance/ Dyson pretty fast knowing it leaves us in a whole at PF and backup SF.

I have a good feeling about this Keion Brooks Jr signing. Think he may end up helping at PF. He also played at Kentucky for (3) years before transferring to Washington. 21pts/ 7reb/ .7stl/ .8blk Added 3pt to his game last year. 38% on 4.3 attempts

Just wondering if what they saw in him made it easier to trade both Dyson/ Nance and be ok with JRE as a temporary #2/#3. Also could be reading into that too much although the timing of it all was interesting.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:00 pm to
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Just wondering if what they saw in him made it easier to trade both Dyson/ Nance and be ok with JRE as a temporary #2/#3. Also could be reading into that too much although the timing of it all was interesting.


Lol no. That dude won’t even make the team.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5897 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:01 pm to
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I hope they pair him with Herb for a long, skilled backcourt and move CJ to his more natural role as a 32-year-old sixth man off the bench, anchoring the second unit. But we'll see. Murray's production last year was basically equal to Ingram's. It was even higher when Trae went out and he ran the team. This is a good get and if you pair him with Herb/Brandon/Zion and just a competent center, you've got a really potent starting squad.


Agree on all points.

Murray and Herb seem like a fantastic back court. Need a center and another good defensive wing off the bench and team is pretty good.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:07 pm to
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Lol no. That dude won’t even make the team.


Maybe not.

Jose did. Naji did. JRE just made the roster from a 2 way contract.

Its now our weakest position pending a BI trade.

Just food for thought.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:08 pm to
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Just food for thought.


Yeah maybe but they didn’t trade Nance because they signed some undrafted rookie to their summer league squad. Come on man.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:14 pm to
I still think that the Sixers are the best spot for BI if they don’t land George.

Maybe BI for Paul Reed and 3 1sts, then route 1 of those over to Utah for Kessler?

That gives you 2 bigs, which we need, and a couple extra assets.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:16 pm to
The move to make now is BI to LAC for PG.

That would be my dream offseason, well, send CJ to the Magic for Isaac and then it’s a dream offseason.

Murray/Herb/Trey/PG/Zion lineup would be legit.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:18 pm to
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Yeah maybe but they didn’t trade Nance because they signed some undrafted rookie to their summer league squad. Come on man


That's not what I said.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:20 pm to
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Just wondering if what they saw in him made it easier to trade both Dyson/ Nance and be ok with JRE as a temporary #2/#3. Also could be reading into that too much although the timing of it all was interesting.


Sorry you said it made it easier. Signing an undrafted guy to your summer league squad has no effect on trading a rotation player on your team.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:21 pm to
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The move to make now is BI to LAC for PG.


The question would be if PG wants to come here. The issue is that it doesn't solve our issue (Center) and will cost us more assets. Just not the smartest move.

I'd rather trade BI + assets for KAT if we plan to make that type of move. It would just make more sense.
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