re: Mirotic or Julius Randle?

I would ask love if I ever met him whether he regrets signing that deal with CLE.
That’s sounds ridiculous but he’s already made 100MM...

basketball nirvana awaits him on any number of good teams, at decent money.
he would be the ultimate hired gun a la big shot bob

it would be incredible to watch

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I would argue paying that guy, even a huge sum for 4 years, is valuable and worth it. I would argue it can be more valuable than cycling through older, cheaper options. And they can do it and still have flexibility.

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That's why I posed the question I did in my first post in this thread. If Niko will be overpaid to the point of being a bad contract, would you be better off getting a higher quality bad contract like Love? Obviously avoiding the bad contract if you can is the way to go, but one of the reasons AD wanted to leave was he didn't win nearly enough while he was here. I think the team wants Zion to experience winning in NOLA as soon as is reasonable.

If Love were to stay reasonably healthy and actually play, it wouldn't really be a bad contract. But that's the catch, right? I mean, I believe in Aaron Nelson, but I don't believe in him that much.

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If Love were to stay reasonably healthy and actually play, it wouldn't really be a bad contract. But that's the catch, right? I mean, I believe in Aaron Nelson, but I don't believe in him that much.

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If the contract was 2 and not 4 years I would sign right up. But that contract would be an anchor as it is currently constructed.

Cap room is all but gone, you risk running into a Gordon/Asik scenario with Ingram and Ball, and you take yourself out of the FA market in 2021 where some solid names come back available.

If we are truly looking at this from a 10-year perspective, not 1 or 2, Love doesn't make much sense.

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Obviously avoiding the bad contract if you can is the way to go, but one of the reasons AD wanted to leave was he didn't win nearly enough while he was here. I think the team wants Zion to experience winning in NOLA as soon as is reasonable.

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And that is also what got fans and the front office wrongfully embracing the Demps method. AD is going to ball out early, therefore, let's accelerate the process and make win now moves.

I said it years back about AD, but the key to maximizing your chance at keeping Zion is being a contender by the middle of his second contract, not rushing to the playoffs in his first. Especially because the former sets you up to be in a lot of cap hell by the time that second contract period gets there.

I say let's be patient, this is a marathon, not a sprint. If we end up in the lottery again I don't think that is the worst outcome. But I wouldn't be rushing to hand out big contracts to guys off our time schedule like Randle or Mirotic.

Julius is gonna get over 20 mil. from some team. Good for him. Don’t want him here, though. Would be a terrible way to spend our cap.

This coming season the cap/tax projections are $109/$132. In 2020-21 the projections are $116/$141. That does help some, but 25% instead of 30% is still pretty significant and hard to move if you're not getting near All Star level production.

I've said it in other threads, so I'm beating a dead horse here, but I would much rather take on Adams over Love if Griff is dead set on acquiring a good vet on a bad deal. Adams' contract only has two years left, as opposed to four, and he was 10th in Defensive Win Shares this past season. Also, he played in 80, 80, 76, and 80 games the last four seasons.

Randle has started almost every game he has been in. He is a borderline top 10 PF and a top 20 big. To try to relegate him to the bench or a 6th man role makes no sense. To let a guy who wants to be here walk for nothing isn't a smart thing to do. Everybody keeps naming bigs that Randle is better and younger than, and they want to give them the same or more money than it would take to resign Randle. Honestly I don't get it.