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Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:50 am to htran90
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:50 am to htran90
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I don't get the rush in trying to trade Niko.
He's going to be a FA.
If a team blows you away with an offer because they think he is the difference between a 1st round exit and moving on in the playoffs, then you have to take it.
Otherwise you hold on to him and his bird rights and see what happens.But you have to make him available at least.
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:50 am to htran90
I'm surprised a team like Portland wouldn't want Randle for the stretch run, although they may be looking at bigger fish like Marc Gasol.
Some team that's going to use him the way the Pels did early in the season...a 20-24 minute microwave off the bench.
Some team that's going to use him the way the Pels did early in the season...a 20-24 minute microwave off the bench.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:51 am to CP3forMVP
That's fine. Break down the prospects pros and cons, how they project to evolve, etc
But to just boil it down to - Perimeter guys have more impact so I take the perimeter guy. That's lazy
But to just boil it down to - Perimeter guys have more impact so I take the perimeter guy. That's lazy
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:55 am to Crewz
so were we apprehensive buyers early on this season because they basically knew this was inevitable or did they just simply wait too long?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:18 am to BilJ
I think they couldn’t get the Beal trade done and as it got closer and closer time ran out.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:22 am to Crewz
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I have been told there have been multiple times this season where Randle has heard Gentry's criticism and said something g like, "Coach, I put up 25!" And Gentry yelled back, "Yeah, but you gave up 30!!!"
It's funny that the below post had people ready to fight me.
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I just don't understand the obsession with Randle. He's been a great fit as a 6th man.
But he was signed with the MLE for a reason, and it's not because Demps is a shrewd negotiator.
If worrying about re-signing Randle is preventing any major moves, then Stern was right about Demps.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:30 am to Crewz
Crewz, I think you mentioned that you were 98% confident that a deal would get done with Boston. Would the other 2% be the Knicks (assuming they get the #1)? Have the Sixers not been involved?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:37 am to Crewz
Crewz, looking at what you said about 19/20.
Do you think there's an administrative solution that can be done to blow AD's mind into staying? Or would you think that he would consider he's done enough for the franchise with current expansion deals of the franchise.
Is there pain there? Is there resentment? There's reports of a lot of pettiness going on but i think there's a solution to this.
I think they go on a retreat with him and his agent to clear the air and get away from the chatter. But maybe i'm too optimistic.
Do you think there's an administrative solution that can be done to blow AD's mind into staying? Or would you think that he would consider he's done enough for the franchise with current expansion deals of the franchise.
Is there pain there? Is there resentment? There's reports of a lot of pettiness going on but i think there's a solution to this.
I think they go on a retreat with him and his agent to clear the air and get away from the chatter. But maybe i'm too optimistic.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:42 am to Crewz
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But I can't say in words how much the coaching staff dislikes his game. Randle could come to the team right now and say, "I will sign for 4 years on a discount" and the Pels would say no before he even finished his sentence.
so why did they sign him in the first place? were they not aware of some of his limits? did they think they could "fix" him? or was it just the best they could do with the salary slot?
this is the stuff i'm curious about- was it a coaching call, a FO call, a Davis call, etc?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:42 am to hometownhero89
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I think they go on a retreat with him and his agent to clear the air and get away from the chatter. But maybe i'm too optimistic.
He is gone.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:43 am to hometownhero89
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I think they go on a retreat with him and his agent to clear the air and get away from the chatter. But maybe i'm too optimistic.
No one wants him back.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
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I don't understand Zion's game in the NBA at all for now.
he is going to be a version of Draymond/Giannis/Simmons. he needs to work on his handle, but if a guy w/ his size and athleticism can create off the bounce, he will be excellent in the NBA.
Zion Williamson Could Be the Next Great Point Center
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Zion is more than just his physical tools, though. He has the mind and the skill set to go with them. Defenders will sag off him and still can’t keep him from getting to the rim and finishing through traffic. He has the footwork and ballhandling ability to create separation off the dribble, the body control to absorb contact in the air, and the touch to score with either hand. He lives at the free throw line, averaging more than half as many free throw attempts per game (6.4) as field goal attempts (12.6). He is shooting 75.1 percent on 2-pointers on 10.7 attempts per game, which shouldn’t be possible for a player who creates so much of his own offense. The only thing holding him back is that he isn’t asked to create more.
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Williamson had an eye-opening performance in a 79-64 win over Pittsburgh last week, when Jones was out with a sprained shoulder. Coach K moved him into a point forward role, and he responded with 25 points on 11-of-13 shooting and seven assists and two turnovers. He controlled the action on both ends of the floor, alternating between scoring at will and picking apart the defense whenever they sent help. It may be the only glimpse we see of him in that type of role until he gets to the NBA.
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Zion has spent 126 possessions (out of a total of 608) without either Bolden, DeLaurier, or senior center Antonio Vrankovic next to him, according to the tracking numbers at hooplens.com. The results speak for themselves. The Blue Devils score an average of 1.09 points per possession with Zion on the floor and allow an average of 0.83 points per possession on defense. The former number skyrockets up to 1.21 points per possession in small-ball lineups, while the latter barely budges up to 0.88 points per possession. A lineup with Barrett at the 4 and Zion at the 5 fueled a 21-4 run that blew open the game against Tech. Zion talked it up afterward: “It was taking our two playmakers and putting them in the middle [of the zone], and the defense had to pick their poison. We moved [the ball] around, and now Cam or Tre could shoot.”
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Zion has one key advantage over LeBron: timing. LeBron entered the league in a much different era, when teams rarely played small ball and didn’t shoot nearly as many 3s as they do now. The positionless era is in full swing. The biggest and most athletic players on the floor are no longer parked under the basket. They are given the ball and put in as much space as possible. Zion should be given the chance to do that from day one. The easiest way to make your teammates better is to create shots for them on offense and cover for them on defense. Zion’s ability to do both has allowed him to dominate the NCAA. He could be even better in the NBA.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:58 am to corndeaux
It's an initiator-driven league, and guards fit into that category more often than bigs. But you have Giannis, pre-GSW KD, LeBron, Kawhi, Simmons, Doncic, Jokic, etc. that are the focal points of offenses that are great/will be great. You want players that can create buckets for himself but also draw enough attention to create looks for others like those guys can.
When you have someone as talented as Zion, you draft him and figure out positions later. He's a walking mismatch that opponents will have to figure how to matchup with. On top of that, he seems like a high character, willing to learn guy who's going to work hard to improve on his weaknesses. He probably won't ever light it up from the perimeter, but he also probably won't need to.
When you have someone as talented as Zion, you draft him and figure out positions later. He's a walking mismatch that opponents will have to figure how to matchup with. On top of that, he seems like a high character, willing to learn guy who's going to work hard to improve on his weaknesses. He probably won't ever light it up from the perimeter, but he also probably won't need to.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:05 am to Crewz
Hopefully we can just make a verbal agreement with the Celtics and just wait until the draft to see what happens with the picks and all of that. If something happens where another deal with another team seems more attractive, then we just takenthe other deal.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:10 am to hometownhero89
At this point theres no keeping him unless you get rid of the entire team..
He has already basically said to the guys that they are not good enough to play with him.. As a teammate how can you look that guy in the eyes again, or even want to give more than a half assed effort for him?
He has already basically said to the guys that they are not good enough to play with him.. As a teammate how can you look that guy in the eyes again, or even want to give more than a half assed effort for him?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:36 am to hometownhero89
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Do you think there's an administrative solution that can be done to blow AD's mind into staying?
Why would the Pels want AD to stay?
A winning team will sell more tickets than a losing team with an elite player.
AD's just not a winner. He's a great player - an elite player, but he's run his course in NOLA, and re-signing him and committing that much more money to a guy who hasn't won anything since he's been here just seems silly.
The team should be better both medium and long-term by trading him to any of Boston, Philly or NY.
Give me a good team with good players and depth with no 'superstar' over this team any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:40 am to Philippines4LSU
the pelicans have not built a team these past six years...they've built a cult of personality around one player. this was on purpose, and it didnt work
davis just doesnt move the needle as far as fan buy in, not matter how transcendent his talents are. demarcus cousins made more fan impact in less than a full season than davis has in six
having a focal point of a team is a good thing, but it has to be around someone who reflects the passion of the fans back on them
davis just doesnt move the needle as far as fan buy in, not matter how transcendent his talents are. demarcus cousins made more fan impact in less than a full season than davis has in six
having a focal point of a team is a good thing, but it has to be around someone who reflects the passion of the fans back on them
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:44 am to cgrand
BTW...this is the sign that is affixed above every locker in the pels home locker room:
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If they stand behind you -- protect them
If they stand beside you -- respect them
If they stand against you -- destroy them
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
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I don't understand Zion's game in the NBA at all for now.
Absolute freak athlete, but he's a 6'6" PF that can't shoot and I wouldn't say is an amazing defender or anything.
How many 6'6" PFs are really, really successful? Barkley? And this is a completely different era. He doesn't have the perimeter game of a 3 and is undersized for a 4.
I'm with you on this one. I also think his weight will become a problem as he matures. He's certainly athletic right now, but I'm not sure how explosive he'll stay after several years in the NBA. When that explosiveness goes away, what are you left with?
They also talk about how he's coming in at a better time than Lebron did, but I totally disagree. Shooting is a premium in the NBA more so than when Lebron came into it.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:46 am to Crewz
Crewz it isn't likly but if we could get a good player with randle, etwaun, and our first would it be a possibility? This is assumng we get atleast 1-2 picks from whoever we trade AD to.
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