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re: KOC: Celtics have emerged as contenders for Jrue
Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:27 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:27 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Yeah, if we move on from Lonzo I think Haliburton would be a good fit, but if they plan to keep Lonzo long term I don't think it makes sense. We've already seen that Lonzo can operate as a secondary ball handler but needs a primary ball handler next to him, so adding another secondary ball handler really doesn't make sense.
Maybe if they plan to trade Lonzo, but it still seems like the wrong direction to go.
That being said, if they think that Haliburton is the best player available, then make the pick. Worst case, you get to see him for a year and make a decision on Lonzo next offseason.
ETA: I also think they were full of shite when they said "he is what we thought Lonzo would become". When Lonzo came out, everyone thought he would be a primary ball handler.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 12:29 pm
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 1:07 pm to Epic Cajun
Oladipo informed the Pacers he's fully committed and doesn't want to be traded, so that takes off a fallback option for any teams, and maybe adds Pacers to the mix for Jrue.
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Two-time All-Star Victor Oladipo has informed the Pacers that he is fully committed to the franchise and direction of team entering the upcoming season, he tells @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
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Victor Oladipo on @TheAthleticNBA: "I know there have been people saying that I have asked players to trade for me. That's just not true, period. I love my teammates, I cherish the state of Indiana and I'm focused on leading this franchise to a title.”
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This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:46 pm to Soggymoss
quote:What is the thinking that this would add Jrue to the mix with Pacers?
Oladipo informed the Pacers he's fully committed and doesn't want to be traded, so that takes off a fallback option for any teams, and maybe adds Pacers to the mix for Jrue.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 4:57 pm to Soggymoss
He must have not liked the rumors of the teams who were in the running for him. It’ll be interesting what Indiana does now with the Boston rumors.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 5:25 pm to NOSHAU
Pacers will be in the tax, so could be looking to move a little salary.
Oladipo staying means they will be even more inclined to win and make him happy.
Oladipo staying means they will be even more inclined to win and make him happy.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:15 pm to Soggymoss
Denial is what you’d do if you didn’t say those things, but it’s also what you do when a team is trying to trade you and news about you is killing your trade value. Remember CP3 and the Rockets. They had a pretty quick denial from CP3 that there was any trouble in paradise. He was traded shortly there after.
The Oladipo news originally seemed beyond repair, he wanted the bright lights of a glamour market, not sleepy middle America. When has that situation ever gone back to “No guys, it’s fine, I like it here and I’m all about the winning.” It doesn’t.
The Oladipo news originally seemed beyond repair, he wanted the bright lights of a glamour market, not sleepy middle America. When has that situation ever gone back to “No guys, it’s fine, I like it here and I’m all about the winning.” It doesn’t.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:49 pm to TigerinATL
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The Denver Nuggets reportedly tried to acquire New Orleans Pelicans shooting guard Jrue Holiday for guard Gary Harris and wing Will Barton at the Feb. 6 NBA trade deadline.
No way they thought that’d be enough.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:16 pm to jamal
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No way they thought that’d be enough.
I’m sure we laughed at that like we did with Magic’s first offers for AD
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:16 pm to Townedrunkard
KOC said Portland is interested, but also said this
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I appreciate you sharing this but the context matters: Portland has already expressed interest but as I said on the podcast it’s highly unlikely anything happens. They don’t have the pieces that other teams do. It does, however, illustrate their intentions to bolster that teams.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:22 pm to Soggymoss
only 5 more days or so and we should have a lot more clarity. I start to hate the smoke screen leaks and dart throw reporting to make waves after a while
I just want to see our offseason plan come together. Curious to see what Griff and the FO schemed for roster building.
I just want to see our offseason plan come together. Curious to see what Griff and the FO schemed for roster building.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:26 pm to partywiththelombardi
Monday the moratorium is lifted, Wednesday is the draft.
We should see alot of leaks happen this weekend
We should see alot of leaks happen this weekend
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:11 pm to TeddyPadillac
I'm glad you don't get paid to evaluate talent
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:16 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Beginning to think KOC is simply throwing a bunch of rumors out there to see if one or two may hit. He seems all over the place right now.
KOC said Portland is interested, but also said this
quote:
I appreciate you sharing this but the context matters: Portland has already expressed interest but as I said on the podcast it’s highly unlikely anything happens. They don’t have the pieces that other teams do. It does, however, illustrate their intentions to bolster that teams.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:19 pm to NOSHAU
I’m not saying he’s not, but I think the Pels leak about 10 teams was real. With that much interest there’s probably a lot of stray rumor signals floating around.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 3:21 am to NOSHAU
He probably means they want jrue but dont want to trade cj or dont think cj by himself would be enough
Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:45 am to lsukicker436
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I'm glad you don't get paid to evaluate talent
I’m glad we have an Internet message board where we can all share our dumbass opinions.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:11 am to TeddyPadillac
Pelicans get: Myles Turner and #6
Hawks get: Jrue Holiday
Pacers get: Kevin Huerter, Dwayne Dedmon and #13
Maybe this isn’t perfect on all sides, but it seems like this is close to a workable deal. Pels shave about $7.5 million off the books this year as well. I think all sides agree the Hawks would do Huerter, Dedmon and 6 for Jrue. I’m happy if we walk away with Turner and #6.
So the question becomes, what are the Pacers looking for? Dedmon could replace some Turner minutes, Huerter gives them a good young 2 guard if Dipo is gone, and they get a late lottery pick. Maybe they need more, I don’t know, but seems like something could be there.
Hawks get: Jrue Holiday
Pacers get: Kevin Huerter, Dwayne Dedmon and #13
Maybe this isn’t perfect on all sides, but it seems like this is close to a workable deal. Pels shave about $7.5 million off the books this year as well. I think all sides agree the Hawks would do Huerter, Dedmon and 6 for Jrue. I’m happy if we walk away with Turner and #6.
So the question becomes, what are the Pacers looking for? Dedmon could replace some Turner minutes, Huerter gives them a good young 2 guard if Dipo is gone, and they get a late lottery pick. Maybe they need more, I don’t know, but seems like something could be there.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:12 am to Jon1798
I would rather Huerter than Turner. He’s vastly overrated.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:17 am to CP3forMVP
What makes him overrated?
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:23 am to CP3forMVP
I’m sure this is your typical, everyone talks about the Patriots so I don’t like them, everyone talks about the Lakers so I hate them etc. I can totally understand Myles Turner fatigue.
Turner had an ankle injury at the beginning of last season that really slowed him a bit. But the guy is just 24 years old, and he is a highly skilled, true big man and rim protector. I would like to see him rebound better, but some of that comes from playing with Sabonis and also being away from the rim as a court spreader.
2 seasons ago, he shot nearly 39% from three with 2.7 blocks a game. And he’s consistently been a mid 70’s Ft shooter. All that at 22 years old. The kid can play and would be a really strong complimentary piece.
Turner had an ankle injury at the beginning of last season that really slowed him a bit. But the guy is just 24 years old, and he is a highly skilled, true big man and rim protector. I would like to see him rebound better, but some of that comes from playing with Sabonis and also being away from the rim as a court spreader.
2 seasons ago, he shot nearly 39% from three with 2.7 blocks a game. And he’s consistently been a mid 70’s Ft shooter. All that at 22 years old. The kid can play and would be a really strong complimentary piece.
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