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re: Kira Lewis: 10 points in 10 minutes.

Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:15 pm to
Kira already looks bigger than Ja so I don’t get the weight stuff honestly.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:34 pm to
The "too skinny" thing is nonsense. There are plenty skinny guys doing fine all over the league. Did Stan watch Christian Wood?

The guy coaches Brandon Ingram...

Honestly, if Stan hadn't made it such a big deal, I wouldn't have even noticed Kira was any skinnier than the average young PG.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:35 pm to
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Admits he looks good every time he plays. Wont put him out there though.



Sounds like team has concerns that Lewis, put in a position of need, won’t be able to take the physical toll of consistently getting rotation minutes.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2679 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:31 am to
I can see why Shaq say Stan struggles in the playoffs. He’s going to make our players tired and look what happen. Turnovers and a huge L.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17854 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 5:41 am to
Barring some kind of Beal trade, I hope that Kira/NAW can be our starting backcourt next season. That definitely requires that both of them keep developing, but I think it will happen.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14905 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:31 am to
Kira should be getting minutes every night. Even over NAW. He’s clearly a future piece to go with Zion and BI. Can’t say the same for NAW, Hayes, etc.
Posted by nicj4
Guadeloupe
Member since Jan 2020
719 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:53 am to
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He’s clearly a future piece to go with Zion and BI

Not yet.
He does interesting stuffs but he has to prove in the long run.
SVG really need to get Kira more minutes...
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:02 am to
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Kira should be getting minutes every night. Even over NAW. He’s clearly a future piece to go with Zion and BI. Can’t say the same for NAW, Hayes, etc.

LMAO

There is some lunacy in this thread, lawd. Coming from a guy who wants all the NAW, Hayes, Kira minutes.

If you start giving those guys more minutes, you’re putting Bledsoe and Lonzo on the bench even more. I’m not sure how you tell those guys that and then expect to keep them here. Which you’ll have to trade them if that’s the route.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14905 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:10 am to
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If you start giving those guys more minutes, you’re putting Bledsoe and Lonzo on the bench even more. I’m not sure how you tell those guys that and then expect to keep them here. Which you’ll have to trade them if that’s the route.


If that isn’t the endgame for both of those guys with this franchise we have major issues. Lonzo inparticularly.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5873 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:29 am to
Listening to Griff last night, he said he’d love to red shirt Kira but the coaching staff wants him to play.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115833 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:35 am to
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Listening to Griff last night, he said he’d love to red shirt Kira but the coaching staff wants him to play.



Are you fricking serious
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52614 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 10:41 am to
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Which you’ll have to trade them if that’s the route.
pretty sure that’s the plan
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:12 am to
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Are you fricking serious

I don't recall the exact quote but yes he said he wished he could redshirt, which makes zero sense if he's playing well in limited time.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115833 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 11:16 am to
I am becoming increasingly disconnected from Griffin and his approach.

I am now officially worried we will screw up yet another superstar.
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1359 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:10 pm to
From all the talk about trying move out of that spot in the draft, this seems pretty clear that they intend on Kira being a piece they use in a future trade. Wanting to give him a “red shirt” season or limited minutes on a bad team will give other teams less tape on him. So theoretically, it won’t hurt any future potential that other teams see in him.

At this point he has the most trade value other than future picks, as teams have seen a decent amount of NAW and Hayes.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:49 pm to
I didn’t get that impression from Griff’s response at all tbh. And I’m the last one to apologize for Griff if the Wood threads didn’t already make it clear lol

But his response more came across like: I would certainly be ok with Kira having a red shirt year, but the guy is just blowing us away in practices, doing a lot of the stuff I just talked about that the team has struggled with a bit offensively, so I think it’s gonna be hard to keep him off the floor as the season goes on.

It came off much more like a cover your bases response. Where he praises their first round pick, answers some of the fan fodder, but doesn’t want to come across like he is trying to micromanage the coaching staff(which remember, Griff micromanaging was a friction point the media unearthed in the Gentry/Griff fracturing).

I think people are honestly seeing more than what was actually there in that part of the interview. If anything it was heavily signaling that the coaching staff will have Kira in the rotation much sooner rather than later, and last night probably only reinforced that.

To me the much more interesting responses were around the trade questions. Where he didn’t not say Lonzo would be traded, or JJ(which seems obvious now), but more seemed to be simultaneously trying to goose the market and assuage Ball and let people know he’s ok with seeing how the pieces all fit as the season goes on
This post was edited on 1/31/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 11:07 am to
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Kira should be getting minutes every night. Even over NAW. He’s clearly a future piece to go with Zion and BI. Can’t say the same for NAW, Hayes, etc.

I thought you were saying NAW was definitely a future piece a week or so ago. It is the old "guy on the bench must be better than the starters" mentality. They may not want to throw a 19 year old to the wolves too soon in fears of hurting his confidence and development. I would expect he will get more time as the season goes on, but maybe more gradually that some would like.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25553 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:20 pm to
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They may not want to throw a 19 year old to the wolves too soon in fears of hurting his confidence and development.



I cannot stand this mindset.

If you have to coddle someone in fear of hurting their confidence, then that player will likely never amount to anything anyway. Just about every player that has every played has gotten his confidence wrecked early in their career. It's how you learn from it and bounce back. You can't protect children their entire lives. YOu have to get out there and make the mistakes yourself. You can't learn from mistakes if you're never given the chance to make them, and you're not going to stop a kid from making a mistake, you're only delaying the inevitability of it.

there is nothing you can teach a young player about the speed and length of playing an nba game from the bench/film room. You have to experience it and learn from it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61503 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:23 pm to
Yeah. I could see it if they thought he'd get hurt, but physically he's more than held his own every time he's been on the floor. Last year we had Aaron Nelson blowing up the rotations, this year it's Stan. If he gets these guys to play hard it will be worth it, but it's definitely very frustrating right now.
Posted by whodat24
Member since Oct 2018
2356 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:37 pm to
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If you have to coddle someone in fear of hurting their confidence, then that player will likely never amount to anything anyway.

This. Hell you look at Collin Sexton for example. His rookie season the dude got trashed by the vets on his team. How did he respond? He just worked harder to prove them wrong. And now he's looking like a future star.

Treating players like children is how you end up with AD. Kira has never shown confidence issues and when he's on the court he looks like the most confident player. He doesn't hesitate to make decisions like Lonzo does 15 times a game.
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