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re: Griffin: “Brandon Ingram...is a 2 Guard.”
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:02 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:02 pm to GOP_Tiger
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What's the evidence for that? BI was a below average defender this year guarding opposing SFs, so how do think that he can handle guading SGs.
He needs to employ the Peja defense. One of the blogs profiled it back in the day. Basically play off to prevent the drives but you're so tall you can still challenge shots. The end result isn't good but is passable, and that's all we need out of someone scoring 24 ppg.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:03 pm to kingbob
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Hart and Moore are your small forwards
Wut m8
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:05 pm to Hester Carries
What's crazy is that we went into a season a few years ago with E'Twaun as our starting SF. Dell Demps, man.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:10 pm to kingbob
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Hart and Moore are your small forwards
This changes nothing then. Their position labels are merely a formality
You need a competent "3" in order to create an advantage of playing Ingram as a "2"
Posted on 8/15/20 at 6:57 pm to WB504
Lonzo because Jrue is competing for League MVP again next year
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:13 pm to brmark70816
Didn’t the official measurements they did this summer have him at 6’7? He’s 1 inch taller than Klay Thompson.
With him saying “essentially” after, I take it he was just trying to emphasize Ingram having a legit 3 level game as a tall guy, even tho I think he over exaggerated his height
With him saying “essentially” after, I take it he was just trying to emphasize Ingram having a legit 3 level game as a tall guy, even tho I think he over exaggerated his height
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:24 pm to bugafor6
The essentially was a qualifier for sure. But it still made me wonder if they are going to shift him to playing 2/3 instead of 3/4
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:46 pm to Fun Bunch
He did really well for the Lakers at the Point.
I would keep Holiday and trade ball. Move Ingram to the point and find some size at center.
I would keep Holiday and trade ball. Move Ingram to the point and find some size at center.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:59 pm to Jon1798
One of the teams that i wish would try and build a package for Jrue is Toronto,because of Anunoby. I love his potential. Him and Powel along with salary filler and a pick i think would be a nice haul. Not sure if Toronto would do it though. Their GM is elite and is building them up the way im hoping we do.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:03 pm to bugafor6
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Didn’t the official measurements they did this summer have him at 6’7? He’s 1 inch taller than Klay Thompson.
It does list him everywhere as 6'7. I know it was supposed to be official, but he is bigger. Ball is officially 6'6 and Ingram is at least 2 inches taller.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:06 pm to Fun Bunch
Criticizing his abilities to guard "2's" on defense is absolutely fair but ignores that offensive and defensive roles can be different. His playing like a guard on offense doesn't mean he automatically needs to turn around and defend guards on the other end.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:17 pm to brmark70816
To be fair, Josh Hart looks the same height, if not a hair taller than ball in this pick, and favors looks a couple inches taller than everyone there and he’s listed at 6’9. It could be shoes making the difference, but hard to tell here
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:25 pm to bugafor6
Hart and Ball look to be the same height. Ingram is a full forehead taller than Hart. Ingram and Favors look to be the same height. But you are right that shoes and hair could make a difference. Ingram looks like a sloucher with bad posture, so maybe that is contributing..
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:26 pm to WB504
quote:Lonzo gets my vote
Lonzo or Jrue will be on the move.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:27 pm to BowDownToLSU
Both should go. This team isn’t going to do anything significant for the next 2-3 years. Better off sending Jrue to a contender and getting solid assets for him.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:36 pm to Macintosh504
I’m not out on Zo yet...and Jrue, who I advocated strongly to be traded when AD demanded his trade, is actually someone I want to hang around for the right price.
His peak value has passed. When your shooting guard can’t shoot consistently it’s a problem.
But now he’s a culture guy, I believe. If he can be that, we hang his jersey.
I’m not sure there is a great market for him either. Teams will wait it out for his free agency.
His peak value has passed. When your shooting guard can’t shoot consistently it’s a problem.
But now he’s a culture guy, I believe. If he can be that, we hang his jersey.
I’m not sure there is a great market for him either. Teams will wait it out for his free agency.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:03 pm to Fun Bunch
I don’t think Brandon Ingram can guard a 2
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:31 pm to Fun Bunch
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Brandon Ingram is a 23 year old, 6’9”, pure shooting 2 Guard, essentially.”
When did 6’7” become 6’9”? Remember when the Lakers tried to say Ingram grew to 6’11”
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:44 pm to Macintosh504
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Both should go. This team isn’t going to do anything significant for the next 2-3 years. Better off sending Jrue to a contender and getting solid assets for him.
Dumb
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:57 pm to Elleshoe
Guy just came off his worst Per as a Pelican, a regression in pretty much every advanced statistical category, and will be 32 when his next contract starts. For a guy that is not a great shooter and doesn’t get to the line much, that’s a tough type of offensive game to age gracefully.
There should probably be an honest conversation if Jrue is really in our long term plans? Because if he is merely a guy that is around before we are truly ready to contend in 3-4 years, we should probably consider packaging him to get someone who can be.
Before the bubble I really liked the idea of keeping the core together and going after Turner, but with Lonzo’s bubble regression and Jrue’s taking a step back this season, I do wonder if Griffin is going to be more open to some drastic changes
There should probably be an honest conversation if Jrue is really in our long term plans? Because if he is merely a guy that is around before we are truly ready to contend in 3-4 years, we should probably consider packaging him to get someone who can be.
Before the bubble I really liked the idea of keeping the core together and going after Turner, but with Lonzo’s bubble regression and Jrue’s taking a step back this season, I do wonder if Griffin is going to be more open to some drastic changes
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