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re: Anyone willing to admit drafting Zion was a mistake?

Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by southsidedell
Tucson, AZ
Member since Dec 2016
5845 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:21 pm to
I do wish the basketball gods would have given the Pels #2 so they would have been FORCED to pick Ja. Everything equal....Ja, CJ, BI, Herb (or Trey) and Jonas. That would have been great. But we got Zion like anyone in the world would have done with the #1 pick. Stuck with him now. So what are we gonna do...
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2309 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Zion had the medical red flags at draft time


I’m not sure about a red flag, maybe a cautionary yellow. Point being Zion feels he’s most effective (and he is very effective when he plays) North of 280lbs. Pels and Zion gave it a 4 year trial and the results are plain. Ownership, Front Office, and coaches need more leverage in terms of player conditioning tailored to their play style. Zion should not play significant minutes North of 270lbs. Period.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72990 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Unless he drops to about 230 lbs he will never make it a full season.


He will never get that low. But 255-260 is definitely doable and should in theory really help the guy.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72990 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:41 pm to
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I do wish the basketball gods would have given the Pels #2


The way Ja is going he’d have gotten popped slinging crack on Ames Blvd by now
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113145 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:44 pm to
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I do wish the basketball gods would have given the Pels #2 so they would have been FORCED to pick Ja. Everything equal....Ja, CJ, BI, Herb (or Trey) and Jonas. That would have been great. But we got Zion like anyone in the world would have done with the #1 pick. Stuck with him now. So what are we gonna do...

No thanks, rather take my chances with Zion...and that was before this past week.
Posted by southsidedell
Tucson, AZ
Member since Dec 2016
5845 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah thats a lesson learned for Ja and he will be right back.....meanwhile in NOLA....damn Z missing most the season AGAIN! You can fix the thing Ja did. You cant fix injury prone.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113145 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Yeah thats a lesson learned for Ja and he will be right back.....meanwhile in NOLA....damn Z missing most the season AGAIN! You can fix the thing Ja did. You cant fix injury prone.

Like I said, you could have asked me this before this past week and Ja's issues, I'll still take my chances with Zion.


Ja is a good player. Zion is generational. I'll take my chances every time on the generational player for a franchise like ours.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
132802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:03 pm to
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The way Ja is going he’d have gotten popped slinging crack on Ames Blvd by now


We would discover that he is the NOLA East I-10 sniper
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14716 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:08 pm to
Zion was arguably the most unanimous #1 pick since LeBron. Not a chance any front office passes on him. 0.00% chance he's not taken first in that draft no matter who is drafting.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6135 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:20 pm to
I'm not sure what's funny about 230 lbs. The only people close to Zion's weight are 7 foot tall dudes. The body can't handle the impact at his size, so he will always be hurt until he drops weight.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6135 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Zion is generational


Generational bench warmer. Print the shirts.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113145 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:26 pm to
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I'm not sure what's funny about 230 lbs. The only people close to Zion's weight are 7 foot tall dudes.
There isn't a single dude in the NBA that looks and has the body type Zion does.

That certainly may be the reason why he always has injuries, but it is also the reason why it's not realistic to think he can get to 230.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:51 pm to
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Careful. You might hurt some feelings on this board but yes we should have drafted Garland or the other Duke guy Barrett

Only person that got there feelings hurt today is you buddy
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11513 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:29 pm to
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I'm not sure what's funny about 230 lbs. The only people close to Zion's weight are 7 foot tall dudes. The body can't handle the impact at his size, so he will always be hurt until he drops weight


This is beating a dead horse. People just don't understand body types and weight. Zion can easily get down to the 230s and still be super powerful.

There is a point though of mass equaling power. His mass does make him more powerful. It's super unique that he can carry it so well. It's just a proven fact that he cannot play at that size for substantial periods of time.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Zion was arguably the most unanimous #1 pick since LeBron


Good god, the I’m not the grammar police, but most unanimous?

Also, AD was.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113145 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Good god, the I’m not the grammar police, but most unanimous?

You know what he meant, no big deal.
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Also, AD was.

Nah, not over Zion.
Posted by BadaBingBadaBoom
Lafourche Parish
Member since Mar 2022
2625 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:31 pm to
Drafting him wasn't the mistake, Zion is the mistake!
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Nah, not over Zion.


MKG went #2 in the draft. No one consider even remotely as the top guy.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113145 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:35 pm to
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MKG went #2 in the draft. No one consider even remotely as the top guy.

You may be correct.

I was probably arguing something different, less so unanimous pick and more so the most sure fire stud/generational type player. I'd definitely argue that was Zion over AD for that moniker.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12348 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:07 pm to
Who should they have drafted?
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