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re: Alvin Gentry fired per Woj top two names are Ty Lue and Jason Kidd

Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:47 pm to
What I got from the Griff presser:

Griff went out of his way not to do a laundry list of things they're looking for so it didn't look like he was bagging on Uncle Al. But one specific coaching skill he did talk about was "engendering player buy in" and he also said that "Won't Bow Down wasn't a marketing slogan."

Combine that with him wanting someone that "shared their vision of the team" (ie not looking for someone to bring in a new system) and the fact that he feels a lot of the assistants will be able to stay, and I'd say Griff wants someone with leadership and motivation as their strongest skill.

I don't think that gets us any closer to coming up with a short list, but it should please the long time Gentry sufferers that correcting his biggest deficiency seems to be at the top of the list.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9249 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:48 pm to
Wait he didn't announce the Coach K hiring? Wtf
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127759 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:00 pm to
Ime Udoka being that high is SUPER interesting.

I mentioned him last night but I really thought he’s get the Bulls job.

People love him. And he’s good with D.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Combine that with him wanting someone that "shared their vision of the team" (ie not looking for someone to bring in a new system) and the fact that he feels a lot of the assistants will be able to stay, and I'd say Griff wants someone with leadership and motivation as their strongest skill.
i don’t like hearing some of this tbh. You don’t wanna change systems? And keep most of the staff? Idk man
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40158 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:03 pm to
I wonder how often insiders clean up on this type of thing where they have the opportunity to make a bet a few minutes/hours before anything is public.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6091 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:06 pm to
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You don’t wanna change systems? And keep most of the staff?

That could be a mandate from Benson. Paying Gentry and a new coach this year on top or losing revenue due to no fans in the arena. Could have said fine get a new coach but i’m not paying for an entire new staff also.
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20335 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:10 pm to
Ty Lue looms large for contenders in the coaching marketplace – with the possibility of an additional championship asset on his staff: Chauncey Billups.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:12 pm to
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You don’t wanna change systems?


He didn't say that specifically, but I took the "shares their vision" to mean Griff will be deciding or at least approving what system is run.

Fletch dropped an article a few days ago suggesting Gentry would be fired because "Alvin Gentry is a convert, David Griffin needs a true believer". LINK

In the article it talked about Gentry not being a fan of management being so hands on or Griff selling snake oil.

quote:

Don’t get me wrong, or misinterpret my words, Gentry is on board with what Griff is doing -- and Gentry angled for Griffin to get the job last year. But as a survivor who's had to adjust and adapt time and time again during his long career, he’s more of a convert than someone who’s been indoctrinated into a certain belief structure since day one.

I’m not sure Gentry ever felt comfortable with Griffin touting Jrue Holiday as an MVP candidate.

I’m not sure Gentry and his staff feel comfortable with management being so hands on and cozy with players.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20665 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:15 pm to
I mean, I also think that our assistants are good. I really don't blame Bzdelik for our poor defense. Bzdelik can't really hold players accountable for effort, which was the biggest problem.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17301 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:25 pm to
What's wrong with our current assistant coaches?

Vinson is the best shooting coach in the NBA.

Bzdelik is a highly regarded defensive coach, but he is old and may just retire anyway.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55703 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:28 pm to
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Vinson is the best shooting coach in the NBA.
only guy I’m willing to keep. Maybe Finch too. But it’s not a deal breaker for me if a coach we like doesn’t want them. What I’m getting at is I don’t like the idea of telling potential coaches of ours that if you wanna join us you have to keep these certain people around.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55703 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Ty Lue looms large for contenders in the coaching marketplace – with the possibility of an additional championship asset on his staff: Chauncey Billups.
yeah adding a former player with zero coaching experience really heightens your value, Lue lmao
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Ty Lue looms large for contenders in the coaching marketplace – with the possibility of an additional championship asset on his staff: Chauncey Billups.



Billups is going to love the halftime chats with Jen Hale
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33570 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:53 pm to
Why does kidd keep getting opportunities
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:28 pm to
Was Alvin fired or relived of his duties?

Think it’s interesting all the reports say relieved of duties in regards to Alvin but fires when talking about the Bulls coach.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21104 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:32 pm to
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know we hated on Al a lot but he’s a great dude and it must have sucked to have had to fire him.
this. The way he handled the AD saga was nothing but class
Posted by HickfawJim1
Member since Sep 2013
452 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Was Alvin fired or relived of his duties?

Think it’s interesting all the reports say relieved of duties in regards to Alvin but fires when talking about the Bulls coach.


I think Gentry's contract is expired, but I'm not sure.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20665 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:44 pm to
"Relieved of his duties" is just a fancy way to say "fired."

Gentry had a year left on his contract. He was fired.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
2112 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:35 pm to
LETS GO BOYS. NO LUE OR KIDD, WE’RE DOING FINE
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