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re: 2021 NBA Free Agency
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:21 am to LilWezyAna
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:21 am to LilWezyAna
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The sanity has left this board the last few days
He's at the forefront of supermelt this week that's for sure
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:27 am to MrJimBeam
Good morning. I'm expecting some glorious melts today. Which player doesn't want to be here the most? The board will decide! Place your bets!
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:33 am to bluebarracuda
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We've got a nice log jam of bigs between Zion, Jonas, Jax and Billy. You don't need traditional 1-5 backups in modern NBA.
None of them can shoot a 3, and don't tell me JV or Jax can, b/c no defense cares about that shot from them, and they aren't 4's no matter how much some of you think Jax can play the 4.
We need a legit stretch 4. It is extremely frustrating that we watched McDermott, Jamychal Green, Otto Porter and Bobby Portis all get signed for deals that we could have topped. That's the kind of players you go and overpay for 2 years to bring in, not CP3 or Lowry.
Green 2/$17. offer him 2/$22
Porter 1 year minimum. Hell give him 2/$10
Ports 2/$9M. Give the dude 2/$20.
McDermott 3/$42M. Offer 3/$48.
I hate the idea of Kevin Love, but if we can get a first for taking him, i think we should do it at this point if nothing else is going to happen. Problem is Cleveland doesn't have any extra picks, so i doubt they are going to give up one of their own 1st to trade him right now. They are probably more likely to just buy him out or just let it ride for this year and buy him out next offseason.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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I hate the idea of Kevin Love, but if we can get a first for taking him, i think we should do it at this point if nothing else is going to happen.
We should have already offered to take back Kevin Love to bring in Sexton when they were floating his name around.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to TeddyPadillac
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None of them can shoot a 3, and don't tell me JV or Jax can, b/c no defense cares about that shot from them,
JV shoots 37% whether teams respect it or not.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:44 am to Soggymoss
I know this GM(trying to be nice) isn't going to end free agency having added only ONE shooter to this team. A rookie. I just know thats not the case...
This GM was stupid enough to think he had a shot at the top FAs, and failed miserably. But I know he's not incompetent enough to not add any shooting to this roster for the 2nd offseason in a row...
Our GM can't be that pathetic.
Surely i'm going to get a couple Woj alerts about shooters we've added.
This GM was stupid enough to think he had a shot at the top FAs, and failed miserably. But I know he's not incompetent enough to not add any shooting to this roster for the 2nd offseason in a row...
Our GM can't be that pathetic.
Surely i'm going to get a couple Woj alerts about shooters we've added.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:47 am to eyeran
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I know this GM(trying to be nice) isn't going to end free agency having added only ONE shooter to this team. A rookie. I just know thats not the case...
In fairness, Graham is a pretty good shooter, but you also lost Lonzo, so the effect is only incremental.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:49 am to eyeran
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I know this GM(trying to be nice) isn't going to end free agency having added only ONE shooter to this team. A rookie. I just know thats not the case...
Well, that isn't what happened.
Graham is a very good volume 3pt shooter with range.
JV is a good shooter all around for his position.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:49 am to TeddyPadillac
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None of them can shoot a 3, and don't tell me JV or Jax can
Yeah none of them scare you, but JV shoots 37% for his career. I realize he doesn’t take a ton, but that’s about as reliable a percentage as one can get from a 5. It’s also not like it’s a fluke, he’s taken almost 300 attempts. Yeah, he’s not scaring you, but I feel way better with him running a pick and pop for Zion than Adams.
Also, I’d love to see Hayes develop that shot. He’s got a chance to be a game changer if he can knock em down with any sort of consistency
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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potentially insanely complicated trade that wasn't yet official to open our options.
Every time we have a GM make dumbfounding moves, it seems like the sunshine pumpers fall back to the same argument: "But wait, there are more deals lined up. That's the only reason he would do this." It happened with the Houston pu pu platter for CP3 and it happened again this year.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:55 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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dumbfounding moves
It wasn't dumbfounding, it was extremely clear what they were trying to do and a very smart cap manuever.
They didn't do anything with it, though.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:55 am to Fun Bunch
quote:He made a total of 21 3s last year and less than 100 in his 9 year career. If we are going to count that as a big that can shoot 3s, we could just say Hayes hit 43% last year.
JV shoots 37% whether teams respect it or not.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Graham in, Ball out. How much shooting did the team gain incrementally? JV is better than Adams. If one of his big goals was to add shooting, thus far he has not achieved that goal.
Well, that isn't what happened.
Graham is a very good volume 3pt shooter with range.
JV is a good shooter all around for his position.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:59 am to NOSHAU
Yeah, Demps probably would have used a total of 3 first round picks that netted us a season of Adams, the chance to dump Bledsoe and Graham.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:00 am to eyeran
We did the most important thing that needed to be done. Griffin undid his mess by removinf Bledsoe and Adams from the roster. Those two added negative spacing to the court.
They also added a dynamic spacer and a strong P&R skillset with Graham. Teams don't sag off of Graham like they do with Ball and Graham while he is a poor finisher at the basket is really good at getting to the line because he always force contact at the basket.
JV is neutral to positive spacing with his ability to hit shots at a high level out to 20ft. While he doesn't have volume to back up his high percentage shooting from deep, we will definitely be using him a lot more behind the arc than Memphis needed him to.
While we had a disappointing offseason due largely to our inability to attract free agents, I think we are a much more complimentary team compared to last season.
This is the most depth we had since Griff got here. It only sucks because we couldn't land a big fish to round out the roster.
They also added a dynamic spacer and a strong P&R skillset with Graham. Teams don't sag off of Graham like they do with Ball and Graham while he is a poor finisher at the basket is really good at getting to the line because he always force contact at the basket.
JV is neutral to positive spacing with his ability to hit shots at a high level out to 20ft. While he doesn't have volume to back up his high percentage shooting from deep, we will definitely be using him a lot more behind the arc than Memphis needed him to.
While we had a disappointing offseason due largely to our inability to attract free agents, I think we are a much more complimentary team compared to last season.
This is the most depth we had since Griff got here. It only sucks because we couldn't land a big fish to round out the roster.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:01 am to saints5021
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Yeah, Demps probably would have used a total of 3 first round picks that netted us a season of Adams, the chance to dump Bledsoe and Graham.
We have 7 of our own draft picks on the roster this season.
We never had more than 2 at any one point in the Demps era to my knowledge.
So try again.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:04 am to Fun Bunch
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JV shoots 37% whether teams respect it or not.
and that's great, but JV is a 5, and we need a backup 4.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:09 am to Fun Bunch
Graham simply replaced Lonzo's shooting. JV isn't a shooter.
The GM said out of his own mouth, multiple times, starting before last season even ended(when he was interviewed during that last Lakers game) that this team had to have more shooting.
Right now we have 2 guys that we know can hit NBA 3s at a decent volume. Exactly where we ended last year. Pathetic.
We just watched an NBA playoffs filled with teams with literally more 3 point shooting than they could get on the court, and we're talking about JV being one of our "shooters."
If this is basically the roster we take into next season, the bitching and whining about how unfair the national media treats us needs to stop. Griffin would deserve every bit of it.
The GM said out of his own mouth, multiple times, starting before last season even ended(when he was interviewed during that last Lakers game) that this team had to have more shooting.
Right now we have 2 guys that we know can hit NBA 3s at a decent volume. Exactly where we ended last year. Pathetic.
We just watched an NBA playoffs filled with teams with literally more 3 point shooting than they could get on the court, and we're talking about JV being one of our "shooters."
If this is basically the roster we take into next season, the bitching and whining about how unfair the national media treats us needs to stop. Griffin would deserve every bit of it.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:10 am to NOSHAU
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Graham in, Ball out. How much shooting did the team gain incrementally?
Graham is a better 3 point shooter than Lonzo and has shown much more consistency. He's shot over 42% on catch and shoot 3's for his career.
JV takes about 1 or 2 a game and makes 37% of them, so that's also an improvement.
Also our rookie had something like the greatest catch and shoot 3 percentage in all of college basketball.
Shooting, specifically in spot up situations, has been a priority this offseason it seems. With Zion's drives creating so many of those opportunities, I can get behind the mindset
ETA: Also, if Griff can pull off something for Hield, this would probably be the best shooting roster we've assembled in a good decade
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:11 am to eyeran
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Graham simply replaced Lonzo's shooting.
I think Graham provides a different "type" of shooting that I think will be more beneficial.
JV can shoot, his percentages reflect it.
Murphy can shoot.
Removing Bledsoe and Adams from the equation by itself to me increases shooting.
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