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Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:12 am to Fun Bunch
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We have 7 of our own draft picks on the roster this season.
That is a wonderful statement.
What's really frustrating about this offseason is that the Spurs added McDermott and Forbes, and then took a chance on Zach Collins. Everything they did, is what we should have done, and we are the ones with Zion and looking for more spacing.
How different would you feel about this offseason:
Graham/Kira
NAW/Forbes/Didi/Temple
BI/Naji/Murphy
Zion/McDermott/Collins
JV/Hayes/Billy
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:17 am to TeddyPadillac
That's the thing with Griffin, he REALLY believes his own bullshite and is just an eternal optimist. That can be useful, but you also need a guy that is at heart a pragmatist.
He should have known (or felt out early on) that we were not going to get any of the major guys.
He should have then shifted his focus to getting a few lower level but still good Free Agents that "fit".
He should have known (or felt out early on) that we were not going to get any of the major guys.
He should have then shifted his focus to getting a few lower level but still good Free Agents that "fit".
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:17 am to TeddyPadillac
A little better with McDermott. Don't really care about the other two.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:18 am to Jimmie the Geek
quote:What does that mean? Are you assuming Graham is going to explode this year or something and be significantly better than he has been?
Would you have bet Ball would have shot his 3pt% last year before the season. Would you have made a similar statement about him a year ago?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:19 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Exactly. It is as if he had not backup plans once his top few targets turned him down. Maybe he has something left that we do not know about in the last hour and a half before Memphis starts pushing us to finalize the deal.
That's the thing with Griffin, he REALLY believes his own bull shite and is just an eternal optimist. That can be useful, but you also need a guy that is at heart a pragmatist.
He should have known (or felt out early on) that we were not going to get any of the major guys.
He should have then shifted his focus to getting a few lower level but still good Free Agents that "fit".
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:21 am to NOSHAU
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Are you assuming Graham is going to explode this year or something and be significantly better than he has been?
People have mentioned he's shot 42% on Catch & Shoot 3s vs 37% overall. I expect his percentages to go up just because his shot profile should change.
He also has a reputation as a pull up 3 point shooter. He's really not efficient at it but he's made a good amount of them so he does seem to attract the defense's attention. That should help open up the paint.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:23 am to Fun Bunch
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Murphy can shoot.
it's a tough ask to expect him to come in and play significant minutes and knock down 3's. Hopefully he can b/c it would make a huge difference for this team. We saw Saddiq Bey and Desmond Bane do it as rookies.
My hope more than anything from him is that he's a great defender, which i think he will be.
One very positive thing about this team is that we are super long at every position, even Graham with his 6'6" wingspan, and we've got a lot of guys that can play the passing lanes smartly.
Our defensive potential is very high right now if we can all get on board and play smart team defense, b/c the length and quickness is definitely there, not so much the bulk size though outside of Zion/JV/Billy, although i'm sure Naji can hold his own and if Trey Murphy can add 10lbs or so and get to 220 at 6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan, there's our stretch 4.
what i really hope to see is Graham/Kira/NAW pressure the guy bringing the ball up the court for 48 minutes and all three have long arms and quick feet. make them work, and let our depth and youth work in our favor. You see how much McConnell affects offenses by doing that, Schroeder and Jrue as well. No reason not to do that if we are going to play 9-10 guys a night. We should lead the league in deflections this year, that should be a huge focal point of our defense.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:26 am to TigerinATL
Instead of focusing 100% on percentages, people need to look at the context as well. Graham's 3s are easily more difficult as well as more varied and the defensive attention he receives is different from ball. I'm not going to say anything negative about Ball but Graham's ability demands a lot of attention from defenses is a big difference.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:26 am to TeddyPadillac
At one point this team had:
Lonzo
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Christian Wood
Hart
4th pick in the draft
Picks for days
Tons of cap room
Now we're...here.
Our former franchise players won championships in back to back years. Nobody wants our FA money. One of the worst HCs in NBA history turned our job down to stay an assistant and Zion's future here might rest on how good Devante Graham is.
Griffin has been so bad its almost too much to comprehend. Just depressing.
Lonzo
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Christian Wood
Hart
4th pick in the draft
Picks for days
Tons of cap room
Now we're...here.
Our former franchise players won championships in back to back years. Nobody wants our FA money. One of the worst HCs in NBA history turned our job down to stay an assistant and Zion's future here might rest on how good Devante Graham is.
Griffin has been so bad its almost too much to comprehend. Just depressing.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:26 am to TigerinATL
I do wonder if this offseason will have an effect on some of the wildly overly optimistic fans on here to being a little more...pragmatic.
Hopefully it has that effect on Griff.
Hopefully it has that effect on Griff.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:27 am to supe12sta12z
Yeah that's exactly how I see this as an improvement on our end right now. Ball didn't do anything on offense besides pass and shoot. Graham can be creative and aggressive especially as a great FT shooter.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:31 am to ghost2most
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A little better with McDermott. Don't really care about the other two.
a lot better. He's turned into one of the elite shooters in the league b/c of his quick release and work off the ball.
and I'd rather Bryn Forbes than Lonzo. You think a guy that knows his role as a backup, has been playing on average 23mpg the last 4 years shooting 4.6 3PA/g at 42% is something not to care about? and you don't have to give him $20M/yr, or even $10M/yr for that matter.
I didn't expect Zach Collins to get that much, but hey, they obviously see something they really like enough to give him 3/$22, and i trust the spurs more than anyone else.
McDermott and Forbes would have been the perfect offseason for us after JV and Graham moves. All low key moves that added tons of shooting and keeps you very flexible, but knowing our idiot GM, he probably thought we'd have had to give up 2-3 1sts to sign these UFA so he didn't even bother to look into offering them anythign.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:34 am to TeddyPadillac
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but knowing our idiot GM, he probably thought we'd have had to give up 2-3 1sts to sign these UFA so he didn't even bother to look into offering them anythign.
quote:
TeddyPadillac
Good morning! Got a good night's sleep? Ready to tackle a new day?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:35 am to Fun Bunch
quote:You might be the most optimistic poster on this board at the moment.
I do wonder if this offseason will have an effect on some of the wildly overly optimistic fans on here to being a little more...pragmatic.
I don't think i've seen anybody else searching so hard to find some good in this shitshow.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:36 am to NOSHAU
My point is that no one has any clue how the season will play out so you can't assume either Graham or PV will be efficient from 3pt or not. But their past %'s are encouraging, even if not high volume from PV.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:37 am to eyeran
First of all, that isn't even remotely true. We are a better team than last year likely, but only marginally so, and I have been critical of what we failed to do. I am not, and this is not a knock on him, GOP_Tiger that would be wildly optimistic while swimming in a river of shite that's on fire.
Second, there is never a second where you are not over the top negative on here. There's nothing that Griffin could do that you wouldn't shite on. We get it.
Second, there is never a second where you are not over the top negative on here. There's nothing that Griffin could do that you wouldn't shite on. We get it.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:37 am to SLafourche07
quote:
Good morning! Got a good night's sleep? Ready to tackle a new day?
Yes i did, and i am, thanks for asking down da bayou Tarpon
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:38 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:40 am to TeddyPadillac
I just read Lauri wants out of Chicago. Is there a chance?
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