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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:51 pm to
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He may opt out just to move.
Doubt it—but sure an option

no way he is getting anything near current value as a UFA. None.

he not throwing 47MM dollars away. He will have to opt in to have any chance of being traded
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:51 pm to
Literally just John Wall from Houston. Idk who else would take Westbrook.
Also Wall is a Klutch client
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Literally just John Wall from Houston. Idk who else would take Westbrook.
Also Wall is a Klutch client

With the Klutch/Lakers front office power struggle they've got going on I wonder if they will even pull that off, especially since Houston will insist on getting a 1st back.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:13 pm to
maybe more than that one first.
they’ve got the lakers bent over in the weight room at oz right now
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:34 pm to
I can see SGA being a target. Would they mortgage 27, 29 and 28 swap for him tho?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:37 pm to
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Literally just John Wall from Houston. Idk who else would take Westbrook.
Also Wall is a Klutch client


Right, but if Pelinka were going to make that trade, he'd have done it this season, right?

So, I don't think it will happen. I think Westbrook plays for the Lakers again next season. I just don't get how Jovan Buha, who is the Lakers beat writer at The Athletic, thinks that Westbrook is going to get moved.

Would they stretch him just to get rid of him? That seems nuts, because I don't think that frees up any cap for them.
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:38 pm to
Maybe so but one guy was playing this year and the other wasn’t.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:38 pm to
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I can see SGA being a target. Would they mortgage 27, 29 and 28 swap for him tho?


OKC can get picks and a player that's useful for SGA.


Simmons threw out Philly salary dumping Tobias Harris, which would get them off paying him 39 mil in 23-24. Him and Danny Green would work numbers wise but they'd be just as bad once Lebron or AD went down because Tobias will come up small.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:45 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:44 pm to
We could beat that easily
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:48 pm to
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can see SGA being a target. Would they mortgage 27, 29 and 28 swap for him tho?


Are they holding Presti’s entire family at gunpoint?

28 teams could beat that.

What players are they sending for salary matching?
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:49 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 7:08 pm to
it begins
quote:

One source close to the situation said Tuesday that LeBron was likely to continue sitting — no matter what that did to his scoring title chances — if the Lakers were eliminated from play-in consideration. We’ll soon see if that stance holds.

per stein
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 7:55 pm to
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Would they stretch him just to get rid of him? That seems nuts, because I don't think that frees up any cap for them.


I think if they stretch him, the cap hit is spread over 5-7 years. So yea it would free up space. They were still paying for Luol Deng after stretching him years ago. He may have just finally come off the books.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:26 pm to
Stretch = 2 x remaining years on the contract + 1

If they waive him before the new league year, that is $47m / 5 for 5 seasons or almost $9m.

Across 3 seasons is $16m and change per season.


Huge chunk of change for a team in cap and tax trouble.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 8:27 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:28 pm to
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especially since Houston will insist on getting a 1st back.


But they don’t have any of those.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Would pretty much have to be John Wall, right?

Really wish teams would stop bailing them out of these stupid decisions
Adding John Wall isn't exactly a bailout.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:55 pm to
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But they don’t have any of those.

They can trade their 2027 pick now, if they want.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:55 pm to
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But they don’t have any of those.
Can't they trade their pics the years with the pick swaps we have?

They'd get the worst pick but I'd imagine it could still be traded, no?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:57 pm to
Nope. Only once it’s conveyed, I believe.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:58 pm to
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They can trade their 2027 pick now, if they want.


Cool. 2027 1st, Toní, and the Laker name for Devonte Graham and Bronny’s rights.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:00 pm to
In theory that could trade a pick that has a swap right on it I think but because they owe us 2022 and 2024 they can’t trade 2023.

After the draft maybe they can (although it’s still subject to the swap). I don’t know how the possible pick deferment from 24 to 25 works with the Stepien Rule.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 9:02 pm
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