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re: Rock is dead. A reminder of its pinnacle.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:52 pm to The Seaward
Posted on 2/11/17 at 3:52 pm to The Seaward
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"Rock is Dead" to me implies that there is no one out there making good rock music. And that is not the case.
Thats the way I took it and agree with you..
Rock as a mainstream, marketable, commodity may very well be "dead"... however, my life is about as far away from that as possible...
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 4:01 pm to kingbob
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Hmm...use made-up issues to stand up to the conservatives and be patted on the back by the media
RATM, SOAD, and Pearl Jam are all huge and extremely leftist. I would expect the next Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and SOAD albums to all have plenty of leftist, anti Trump songs.
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I guess I'll just make music about making money, getting drunk, and having sex.
You mean 80s hair metal, which dominated the decade. Rock doesn't have to be angry or counter culture. Which Led Zeppelin songs were angry protest songs? Motley Crue, Poison, Bon Jovi, Ratt, etc all had plenty of success without getting political.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 4:08 pm to TFTC
Yeah, but the people who complain about that don't set people's cars on fire or commit aggrovated assault.
Most musicians avoid politics because politics already invade so much of our lives. Music is seen as an apolitical oasis where we can all find common ground. Subjecting a captive apolitical audience to a political message has a tendency to piss people off, see the NFL this year. So, you have two options: be expressly political all the time, and automatically alienate half of your potential listeners, or keep your mouth shut and avoid politics at all costs.
There's a good reason I have little interest in going to a Ted Nugent concert, and often are turned off by RATM despite the fact that I enjoy their music. I go to concerts to escape politics, not to seek it out. I don't care what Ted Nugent or Katy Perry thinks about international monetary policy or immigration law. Since I hate that, I don't want to subject others to that, because that would be hypocritical. If there's anything people in this world delight in making examples out of, it's hypocrites.
*As a side note, I am a massive hypocrite. While most of my music is about love, anxiety, depression, and other gay stuff like that, I wrote 3 political-ish songs that my band plays regularly. One is about free speach and the surveillance state, one is criticizing news media and has the message that we're not really as divided as they make us seem, and the third isna weird experimental piece that touches on the tribal nature of politics using an Animal Farm reference.
Most musicians avoid politics because politics already invade so much of our lives. Music is seen as an apolitical oasis where we can all find common ground. Subjecting a captive apolitical audience to a political message has a tendency to piss people off, see the NFL this year. So, you have two options: be expressly political all the time, and automatically alienate half of your potential listeners, or keep your mouth shut and avoid politics at all costs.
There's a good reason I have little interest in going to a Ted Nugent concert, and often are turned off by RATM despite the fact that I enjoy their music. I go to concerts to escape politics, not to seek it out. I don't care what Ted Nugent or Katy Perry thinks about international monetary policy or immigration law. Since I hate that, I don't want to subject others to that, because that would be hypocritical. If there's anything people in this world delight in making examples out of, it's hypocrites.
*As a side note, I am a massive hypocrite. While most of my music is about love, anxiety, depression, and other gay stuff like that, I wrote 3 political-ish songs that my band plays regularly. One is about free speach and the surveillance state, one is criticizing news media and has the message that we're not really as divided as they make us seem, and the third isna weird experimental piece that touches on the tribal nature of politics using an Animal Farm reference.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 4:10 pm to Brosef Stalin
Led Zeppelin absolutely was a groundbreaking band in their time. Back then, there was so much to rebel against that people didn't yave to spell it out. Their very sound was a rebellion against what music was "supposed" to sound like.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 5:38 pm to LSU alum wannabe
"Derek and The Dominoes"
"obscure gems"
"obscure gems"
Posted on 2/11/17 at 5:54 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Brosef Stalin
You just linked a picture with a ton of people at a festival headlined by bands that have been around for over a decade at least. What's your point?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:10 pm to ShamelessPel
That rock isn't dead. I don't know why people expect every flavor of the month who just put out their first album to be headlining festivals right away.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:45 pm to Shockthamonkey
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Rock Is Dead—Long Live Rock
Exactly. Townsend wrote that in 1971.
Long Live Rock live - The Who - skip 30 seconds for the performance.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:58 pm to tarzana
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There was a resurgence of rock and roll in late '79 with such hits as My Sharona and I Want You To Want Me by Cheap Trick, but after about 1984 rock devolved into pop and now it's officially declared dead.
Not even giving you a 1/10 for that one. If you were serious, someone needs to kick you squarely in the nuts.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:03 pm to Kafka
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1. Says Rock is dead
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2. Posts AC/DC as its pinnacle
That wasn't AC/DC at it's pinnacle. And Shoot To Thrill is the most pure rock song ever recorded. That is just hard to argue with.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:09 pm to kingbob
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Rock and roll ain't dead. It will never fully die in the hearts of die hards, but popular culture has passed it by. The youth have passed it by. The ladder has been pulled up.
It went on life support in the late Nineties and never made a recovery. It was a western cultural phenomenon from the late Fifties until the end of the 20th century basically. It had a good postwar run but, like all forms of culture, eventually went out of style. It was a product of it's times. And times have changed.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:13 pm to redneck hippie
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the best artists today are in hip-hop, rap
I shouldn't think so, my lad.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:14 pm to chewstick
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Do you think conservative folks have ever thought that rebellious music was necessary? I mean, we already have Toby Keith.
Elvis Alice Cooper, Gene Simmons, Johnny Ramone are/were conservative
Id say yes to your question.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 9:08 pm to lammo
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"Derek and The Dominoes"
"obscure gems"
No man. Didn't mean they were obscure. Meant I just found THAT album. Which is possibly a GOAT rock album. I JUST found it! I am an idiot. If I or any person looked really hard, they could find obscure things.
Agreed, Derek and The Dominoes are NOT obscure. I'm just a dipshit who up until 10 years ago confused Layla and Lola.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:54 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Okay. Welcome aboard.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:57 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Oh, BTW, check out Aerosmith's first album, Queen II,
Rory Gallagher Live, J.Geils Band "Full House" (Live album. All gems.
Rory Gallagher Live, J.Geils Band "Full House" (Live album. All gems.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 11:10 pm to TejasHorn
Even Def Leppard kicked arse back then
ETA: Bonus - Steve Clark with a (I stand corrected - Steve Clark with a Hamer Special - probably with Dimarzios) instead of a LP Custom - which was his norm. And, Joe and Sav's hair was almost not out of control.
And, of course the great Pete Willis.
And even more - Rick Allen with TWO arms.
ETA: Bonus - Steve Clark with a (I stand corrected - Steve Clark with a Hamer Special - probably with Dimarzios) instead of a LP Custom - which was his norm. And, Joe and Sav's hair was almost not out of control.
And, of course the great Pete Willis.
And even more - Rick Allen with TWO arms.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/12/17 at 12:39 am to Brosef Stalin
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That rock isn't dead. I don't know why people expect every flavor of the month who just put out their first album to be headlining festivals right away.
Rock is dying. Where is this generations headlining talent? These festivals are headlined by bands without original members, often death related or bands that have been around for 10-15+ years. Disturbed, Korn, Alice in Chains, A7X. Those are the bands headlining those festivals you linked. My point is when Metallica and Chili Peppers and Pearl Jam turn 60-70 and your current headliners are pushing 60, who the frick are you looking to next? There is really good music out there for rock but it damn sure isn't hitting the masses in the face like it used to.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 1:18 am to ShamelessPel
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isn't hitting the masses in the face like it used to.
Why is that?
Posted on 2/12/17 at 1:59 am to Ace Midnight
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Steve Clark with a LP double cut instead of a LP Custom,
Hamer.
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