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re: Rock is dead. A reminder of its pinnacle.

Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:51 am to
Sounds just like 80's rock
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:51 am to
Hmm, to each his own I suppose. Red Eyes is probably my favorite song of the past 5 years or so. Don't really hear the Grateful Dead at all though.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:55 pm to
Im just here for the feels
Posted by TexasTiger89
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 3:14 pm to
Rock and Roll will never die.
Posted by Kayhill Brown
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 3:47 pm to
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The Seaward


I totally agree with everything you're saying. It's just pointless to argue with folks that don't keep up with new music.
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 4:14 pm to
Yeah, I was hesitant to get involved in this argument, but I just really hate the "rock is dead" narrative.
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:30 pm to
I hate that with regards to new rock music and with regards to being present and relevant in the cultural zeitgeist that it's true.

I just want to be able to turn on my car and hear good rock music; not rap, not disco, not techno, not new wave, not yacht rock, nor country, nor folk, nor rockabilly, nor hipster "ooo ooo ooo"-ing; but real, f$&king, in your face rock n roll music;come on my stereo from an FM station.

Is that so much to ask for? Is that a crime?
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Flame Salamander
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:58 pm to
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Yeah, I was hesitant to get involved in this argument, but I just really hate the "rock is dead" narrative.


Its just a semantic argument. What really happened is that the definition of what is considered rock has changed. It is a generational change.


Coming from the older generation, I don't consider most of the newer bands to be playing rock.

Rock lasted from the 50's through the early aughts.....but there is not much rock being made (or marketed so that I can hear it) currently.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:00 pm to
There's a lot being made, almost none being marketed. When you look at it, there are only like 2 parent companies that own the music industry and radio.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:00 pm to
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Yeah, I was hesitant to get involved in this argument, but I just really hate the "rock is dead" narrative.


I was bored and bit... It's clearly evident rock mean different things to different people... Luckily, as a lover of rock music, it's alive and well to me...
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:38 am to
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just want to be able to turn on my car and hear good rock music; not rap, not disco, not techno, not new wave, not yacht rock, nor country, nor folk, nor rockabilly, nor hipster "ooo ooo ooo"-ing; but real, f$&king, in your face rock n roll music;come on my stereo from an FM station.



kingbob, I think this is very problematic for us SOLA folks... not much in the way of FM radio.

106.1 FM the Tunderground plays a wide range of music of the rock umbrella. You can hear new music on there... but it is limited in what it plays. No other FM rock station exist in my area.


SO it is too much to ask for. Had been this way since Katrina05
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:37 pm to
All released in 2017...

Menzingers: Bad Catholics

Japandroids: Near to the Wild Heart of Life

Cloud Nothings: Internal World

Sorority Noise: No Halo

Rock's doing fine. It's just no longer your commodity. Isn't that better? Yes, rock acts are no longer world famous. That was never the point, or it never should have been.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
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rock acts are no longer world famous. That was never the point
"We want the world and we want it NOW!!!"



Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 2:36 pm to
Big fan of Menzingers first two albums, I'll have to give their new stuff a listen.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:57 am to
I don't think that the OP literally meant that there was no Rock anymore.....but rather that as a cultural phenomenon it was over.....which it appears to be.....until they bring it back as a throwback (again) in a couple of years.


Thanks for the links......appreciated that Cloud Nothings video.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 3:04 am
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:22 pm to
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Rock music is in its jazz phase

And I don’t mean it’s having a Kamasi Washington/Thundercat moment of extreme hipness. I mean it’s like Ryan Gosling’s version of jazz in La La Land: something fetishised by an older audience, but which has ceded its place at the centre of the pop-cultural conversation to other forms of music, ones less tied to a sense of history. Ones, dare I say it, more forward looking. For several years, it seemed, I was asked by one desk or another at the Guardian to write a start-of-year story about how this was the year rock would bounce back. But it never did. The experts who predicted big things for guitar bands each year were routinely wrong. No one asks for that story any longer.

That’s not to say rock and guitar bands aren’t still popular. Plenty of youngish bands can fill decent-sized rooms when they tour, and elicit a febrile response – I’ve never seen a room go bonkers the way Koko did for Catfish and the Bottlemen a couple of years back, for example. But guitar bands now feel as if they are at the periphery, and I don’t see much likelihood of that changing.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:25 pm to
Derek and the Dominos was a great collaboration.

You should listen to the Jethro Tull anthology as well. Well respected but vastly underrated.

Thin Lizzy
Traffic
Genesis

Three more to sample of you haven't already.


My favorites from the 70s in no order:

Allman Brothers Band
LZ
Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
Jethro Tull
Genesis
The Band
Santana
Fleet wood Mac
The Who
Marshall Tucker Band
Lynard Skynard
Steely Dan
Chicago
Doobie Brothers

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:40 pm to
Franz Ferdinand gave rock it´s death knell. Unwittingly, of course.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 7:05 pm to
I still think that a big part of the problem with rock music is classic rock radio. A cryogenically frozen playlist that they've run like a hamster wheel day in and day out since the mid 80s. There's no way ANY music could survive that kind of insane repetition. The sad thing is, the fans of that stuff have no idea how irreparably they have damaged the genre by distilling it down and hammering the same handful of songs to death for years and years with their sad OCD compulsion.

It's really no mystery why things are the way they are.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 7:38 pm to
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