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re: Rock is dead. A reminder of its pinnacle.

Posted on 4/1/17 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 7:38 pm to
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I still think that a big part of the problem with rock music is classic rock radio. A cryogenically frozen playlist that they've run like a hamster wheel day in and day out since the mid 80s. There's no way ANY music could survive that kind of insane repetition. The sad thing is, the fans of that stuff have no idea how irreparably they have damaged the genre by distilling it down and hammering the same handful of songs to death for years and years with their sad OCD compulsion.
That's a reason, but I don't think it's the reason. It's probably more symptom than disease.

Rock was king for 40 years until rap took a huge chunk of its audience in the '90s. Young listeners are not interested in maintaining a classical form. They want novelty.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 8:08 pm to
Yep. The young white girls wanted rap, not grunge, and the white dudes followed. Today, a lot of young white girls like Nashville pop country, so that's popular.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 2:27 am to
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I just want to be able to turn on my car and hear good rock music


so get xm radio.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:56 am to
Rock bands struggle with popularity now because they aren't being developed.

20 years ago up and coming bands were developed by the label.

Now, you need to be great immediately or you have no shot.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14744 posts
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:08 am to
... so in order its

sex
drugs
or rock-n-roll

?
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:29 am to
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Rock was king for 40 years until rap took a huge chunk of its audience in the '90s. Young listeners are not interested in maintaining a classical form. They want novelty.

Not untrue but you have to wonder why. If it was okay for 40 years, that spans at least a couple of generations and if one generation wants to rebel against the previous, what happened from the 50s to the 90s? The consistent thing during those years was an active CURRENT rock music atmosphere. Ever since Y2K rock music has settled into a backward-looking culture. At some point it was like "Okay we've done enough, let's just delve into the past and rest on our laurels".

Classic rock radio compounds that by NEVER adding new music to their playlist while simultaneously being the dominant rock format in every market. With that in place, it's a surefire formula for failure somewhere down the line. Apparently the late boomer/gen X generations are hard to wear out but once they go, there's nothing behind it.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:48 am to
This is absolutely true. You basically have zero shot of signing with a label unless you have already built your own everything from scratch to the point that you don't need a label. Then, if you don't make back their investment in you in a year, you're gone. It's rediculous.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:53 pm to
Yeah, Rock didn't die,...



it just moved to Nashville.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 7:19 am to
Rock is not dead. The music industry and platform as it used to be is dead.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:28 am to
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But it is dead. The most important ingredient in rock music has always been rebellion and being bigger than life. No one is either at the moment, and until it happens it will remain dead.



The thing that is most interesting is many of the iconic bands made it without a lot of radio airplay. We seem to forget this because Classic Rock stations have played much of their music into the ground.

ETA: does anybody here from Baton Rouge remember WJBO-FM 102.5, aka "Loose Radio?"
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14744 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:10 pm to
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The thing that is most interesting is many of the iconic bands made it without a lot of radio airplay. We seem to forget this because Classic Rock stations have played much of their music into the ground. ETA: does anybody here from Baton Rouge remember WJBO-FM 102.5, aka "Loose Radio?"

Around here that was FM radio (maybe WJLN-FM - I forget) and labeled 'progressive/underground rock'. Before then no one had FM it was all AM and suddenly everyone started ditching their factory radios. Much like 8tracks gave way to cassette decks.

Back yonder the choices were few and you never heard so called deep cuts. It was only the most popular top-100 or so at best. With FM they'd play whole LP's and you'd get large blocks without commercial advertisement. And when coupled with the new technology of recording on cassette (not reel to reel) the advent of the personal playlist* took off. It was a revolution like digital, where you could pirate most anything, or just make copies to save the LP. And really the preferred everyday mode til CD's and Walkman's came into existence (think mp3 and ipod).

Perhaps technology has done more than format; there has always been the audiophile who lived music, but never before had so many had the chance to only hear what they wanted. Instead of only being able to readily hear what someone was being paid for them to hear. With choice has come selection and not the same mega-bands of the mid to late 20th century.




*playlist of the day > mix tape and cassette cases > no one went very far without
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:49 pm to
BTW: Todd Snider - answers this way

(talking through -- Hey Hey my-my rock-n-roll will never die)
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:52 pm to
TNT

This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by dirtbag lsu
Not in Texas anymore ...dammit
Member since Feb 2005
2884 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 5:51 pm to
Rock is NOT dead!!

Some of your choices arent even ROCK.
Anyway-

Lamb of God
Metallica (still killing it)
Mastodon
Sevendust
The Pretty Reckless
Halestorm
Within Temptation
Stitched up Heart
And not as heavy and they are a Christian Rock band...but Skillet is awesome. DO NOT go by the silly name...they rock!!
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 5:54 pm
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