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re: Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral turns 30 today
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:55 am to shutterspeed
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:55 am to shutterspeed
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Yeah. Cash’s version is beloved only because he humanized the song. His vocals set to the music don’t really work for me. Too incongruous.
crown of shite>crown of thorns
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:28 am to titmouse
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crown of shite>crown of thorns
Dang I completely forgot he changed the lyric there.
Def. crown of shite>crown of thorns
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:25 am to STigers
I was a big fan of NIN in the 90s. Bought just about everything Trent worked on including all the singles and remixes. I think I've mostly grown out of it now. Downward Spiral is a good album but I don't have much desire to listen to it these days.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:08 pm to Vandyrone
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Something I Can Never Have is mine.
I second that
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:57 pm to mdomingue
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I was never a fan of the genre he was considered to be in but he is a perfect example of how great music transcends genre.
NIN is to industrial as Nirvana is to grunge. Both bands have been lumped into genres in which no other group sounds anything like them.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 3:30 pm to STigers
I was never into NIN but listened to Ghost V and it’s okay
Posted on 3/11/24 at 4:00 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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NIN is to industrial as Nirvana is to grunge. Both bands have been lumped into genres in which no other group sounds anything like them.
Oh, I don't know about that. Trent Reznor is very open about how much of an influence Ministry and a lot of the Wax Trax bands were on him. Just like it ain't much of a leap from Mudhoney and the early Melvins to Nirvana
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:56 pm to timbo
Mr. Self Destruct remains one of my favorite album openers. It's the perfect intro song to this fcked up record.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:19 am to timbo
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Oh, I don't know about that. Trent Reznor is very open about how much of an influence Ministry and a lot of the Wax Trax bands were on him
It took Al and Trent years to finally admit Trent did the Vocals on 1000 Homo DJ's cover of Supernaut
I still have he CD single of this one somewhere in my collection...
And Suck off the Broken EP stems from Trent's collaboration with Industrial Supergroup PigFace who recorded the original version.
NIN - Suck
Pigface - Suck (NSFW Audio). (I was fortunate enough to see Pigface play in 1994. To this day, I still say it's the best small venue show I've ever seen.)
I listened to TON's of industrial music during this time. While I won't 100% disagree TheTideMustRoll's thesis, I'd say NIN's DNA is pretty intertwined into the Early/Mid 90's Industrial scene.
The difficulty in putting brackets on "industrial music" is it ranges from dance hall industrial with bands like Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb to Metal industrial with bands like Ministry, KMFDM and Circle of Dust. To me, NIN was somewhere in the middle. They were on par with bands like Front Like Assembly and Contagion
It's pretty obvious that the term "industrial" in the 90's painted with a wide brush. Additionally, many of these bands had wide variety in their music within the same albums and changed their sounds significantly from album to album. For example, Ministry's "Twitch" is nothing like "Psalm 69" both both are technically considered industrial.
So saying NIN isn't like the other industrial music of the time is showing an incomplete view of the width and breath of the 90's industrial music scene.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:00 am to Lonnie Utah
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It took Al and Trent years to finally admit Trent did the Vocals on 1000 Homo DJ's cover of Supernaut
Trent Reznor did the original vocals on the Supernaut cover, but his record company got in the way, and someone else replaced him on the single. They re-released the song years later - I think it was on a big end of Wax Trax box set - with the original vocal. (Waaaaaay back in the old Napster days, that Supernaut cover with Trent Reznor on vocals was one of the first things I downloaded)
OK, here's the Wikipedia entry. Apparently, either they distorted Trent Reznor's original vocal, or Al Jourgensen sang on it, or some combination of the two. I'm the sure the confusion stems from the fact that all of the parties involved were on multiple potent mind-altering chemicals.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:14 am to timbo
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Trent Reznor did the original vocals on the Supernaut cover, but his record company got in the way, and someone else replaced him on the single.
So you're mostly correct. Al re-recorded the vocals himself and the overdubbed the original release version with both him and Trent (washed thru heavy distortion) on vocals. Trent was never credidted on the original release because of the legal issues you mentioned above. But you're correct in the fact "clean" vocal version of Trent doing them didn't come out until years later.
If you listen to both songs back to back, it's VERY difficult to distinguish between the two. In fact, I've listened to both versions hundreds of times I if I didn't know which version I was listening to (you just were playing the vocal parts) I'd have a hard time telling the two apart. Try it for yourself....
The vocals start at 1:16....
Supernaut (Original version)
Supernaut (Trent Reznor Vocal Version)
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:02 am to STigers
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Closer
This and the becoming are my favorites off Downward Spiral
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:22 pm to STigers
Chris Vrenna is vastly overlooked as the soul behind this album. Without all of the movie samples he added, the songs would still be great but otherwise lack that extra something that made the album what it was.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:24 pm to STigers
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Trent Reznor moved to 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, Los Angeles, the site of the murder of actress Sharon Tate by members of the Manson Family in 1969; it was transformed into a studio for recording the Broken EP (1992) and subsequently The Downward Spiral.
LINK
One of the producers of Full House tore down 10050 and built this castle. It’s been on the market forever. No one will touch it.
Edit: Broken was mainly recorded in New Orleans
Double edit: for anyone wanting to hear new blood pick up where Broken and The Downward Spiral left off, go check out Health’s “Rat Wars”
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 3/15/24 at 12:34 am to MyRockstarComplex
You led me down a rabbit hole and I found an interesting article about the history of the Tate House, with a couple of quotes from Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson.
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This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 12:36 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 2:20 am to timbo
His studio on Magazine had the door from the Cielo house. That's when TR was hanging out at the half moon and partying a bit in NOLA. Cleaned up, refocused and got the hell out.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 5:57 am to JW
I used to go by & check out that door all the time. It is amazing that he was able to take the door with him from the house in L.A.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:47 am to Hetfield
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It is amazing that he was able to take the door with him from the house in L.A.
It’s amazing he got that door to fit. I can barely mix and match doors from Home Depot.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:01 am to STigers
Bow down before the one you serve....
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:20 am to Vandyrone
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Something I Can Never Have is mine.
"Right where it belongs" is another good one in the same vein.
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