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Member when Def Leppard actually kicked arse?
Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:25 pm
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:55 pm to maxxrajun70
Nope
Posted on 10/9/20 at 5:33 pm to maxxrajun70
Somewhat, it's just too bad Hysteria tarnishes almost anything good associated with them now.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:28 pm to maxxrajun70
High ‘n’ Dry is a great hard rocking album. Pyromania, though amazing in its own right, was a letdown for me at that time, a 19 yr old metalhead. Didn’t like the mellower direction. Though I’ve seen them a few times live, I lost interest around 1983\4.
Edit: Those first two albums are so damn good!
Edit: Those first two albums are so damn good!
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:46 pm to maxxrajun70
Saw them a couple years ago and they still kicked arse.
Posted on 10/10/20 at 8:56 am to maxxrajun70
Boy band
Posted on 10/10/20 at 4:29 pm to maxxrajun70
no
Posted on 10/10/20 at 7:46 pm to tigermeat
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Member when Def Leppard actually kicked arse? High ‘n’ Dry is a great hard rocking album. Pyromania, though amazing in its own right, was a letdown for me at that time, a 19 yr old metalhead. Didn’t like the mellower direction. Though I’ve seen them a few times live, I lost interest around 1983\4. Edit: Those first two albums are so damn good!
Agree. After their run in the early 80's I was done.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:26 am to maxxrajun70
I don't know if I'd say they kicked arse. They were pretty big there for a bit in the 80's. I've never owned one of their albums but I knew Pyromania pretty well. I never considered myself a fan.
One time in, oh, probably the late 90's, I went to see a triple bill with Def Leppard, Styx, and Journey. It was when Journey had their first Steve Perry replacement who sounded just like Steve, not the second one who spent a lot more time with them and got more pub. Anyway, I was there to see Styx and Journey, both of whom I loved in my youth and still own a bunch of their albums. I had to sort of laugh during Def Leppard's opening set because I was able to sing along with every single song they played. That really set the mood for a fun night.
Btw, Styx performed an acoustic version of Crystal Ball that night that totally kicked arse.
One time in, oh, probably the late 90's, I went to see a triple bill with Def Leppard, Styx, and Journey. It was when Journey had their first Steve Perry replacement who sounded just like Steve, not the second one who spent a lot more time with them and got more pub. Anyway, I was there to see Styx and Journey, both of whom I loved in my youth and still own a bunch of their albums. I had to sort of laugh during Def Leppard's opening set because I was able to sing along with every single song they played. That really set the mood for a fun night.
Btw, Styx performed an acoustic version of Crystal Ball that night that totally kicked arse.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 3:25 pm to maxxrajun70
They sold out to become pop and MTV stars. They went away from their basic beginning roots, but they became more famous and made more money. The love ballad "Love Bites" really grates on my nerves.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:50 pm to maxxrajun70
I think most would say that when Mutt Lange became their producer, they shifted big time towards the “arena rock” sound and style. I’m sure it alienated quite a few fans of their first couple of records.
Still, no matter what you think of them, their drummer, Rick Allen, to come back from his accident and losing his arm, to still being able to play at a high level, that is badass and quite an accomplishment in my book.
Still, no matter what you think of them, their drummer, Rick Allen, to come back from his accident and losing his arm, to still being able to play at a high level, that is badass and quite an accomplishment in my book.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:41 pm to maxxrajun70
No
Posted on 10/11/20 at 7:58 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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I think most would say that when Mutt Lange became their producer, they shifted big time towards the “arena rock” sound and style. I’m sure it alienated quite a few fans of their first couple of records.
Their second album High 'n' Dry was produced by Mutt.
As for Rick, well it is amazing he can play but there are some compromises. Most all the drums on Pyro and later are drum samples (a Fairlight on Pyro). Cymbals are live, drums are from a machine. This is why the fills are relatively simple on Pyro and Hysteria. So when he relearned to play, he was able to trigger many of those same sounds. Especially the snare with his left foot. And since many of the fills were already pretty basic he didn't have to adapt crazy Neil Peart-esque fills. In addition, some of what he does is trigger loops live. It's a different technique and impressive he can do it so seamlessly.
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:11 pm to maxxrajun70
Sure don't. What has 9 arms and sucks?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:47 am to johnqpublic
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This is why the fills are relatively simple on Pyro and Hysteria.
Pyromania was released in Jan. 1983, when Rick had two arms. He did not lose an arm until New Years Eve of 1984.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:31 pm to Twenty 49
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This is why the fills are relatively simple on Pyro and Hysteria.
Pyromania was released in Jan. 1983, when Rick had two arms. He did not lose an arm until New Years Eve of 1984.
Yes, you missed my point. The reason he was able to play the fills after losing his arm was because the fills on the album before he lost his arm, Pyro, were simple. They were simple because Mutt and Mike Shipley played them from a Farilight. Rick did not play them. At the time, drum parts from a machine sounded best when kept simple. No Neil Peart thousand hit fills. So when Rick lost his arm, he didn't have to learn to play those massive fills. He needed to learn how to play the simple fills.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:50 pm to maxxrajun70
I do not recollect such a period
Posted on 10/12/20 at 2:13 pm to johnqpublic
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Yes, you missed my point. The reason he was able to play the fills after losing his arm was because the fills on the album before he lost his arm, Pyro, were simple. They were simple because Mutt and Mike Shipley played them from a Farilight. Rick did not play them. At the time, drum parts from a machine sounded best when kept simple. No Neil Peart thousand hit fills. So when Rick lost his arm, he didn't have to learn to play those massive fills. He needed to learn how to play the simple fills.
Correct.
Mutt also anticipated the success of Pyromania, which would naturally lead to the band playing to much larger crowds in much larger venues. According to Joe Elliott, in addition to the Fairlight being the best option to get those huge punchy drum sounds, Mutt's thinking was that busy fills would get lost in the mix in those large arena-sized venues, so simpler fills would lend to a cleaner live sound. Rick had a tendency to play really busy in live settings and Mutt was trying to teach him to simplify, so this was one way to do it.
Regarding the Fairlight, I keep one of my snare drums tuned as close to that snare tone as I can get it. Love that big, fat, punchy snare sound.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 6:46 pm to maxxrajun70
Remember when Def Leppard got all that arse?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:36 pm to Rize
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Nope
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