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re: Is there anyone who DOESN'T think Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time?

Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:11 pm to
I think you are disqualified from the "greatest drummer of all time" discussion when you have to play with a click track live... (peart)

but hey, that's just my opinion
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:12 pm to
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Bonham kills me. What more can you say, really?



everyone knows bonham was a good drummer, but if you really go back and watch the live performances... that was really a naturally talented guy. unbelievably talented.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:20 pm to
Well no shite. I wish I had thought of "really going back and watching the live performances" instead of doing whatever lifelong Zep fans do.

Let me put in a plug for my boy T. Higgins, Nola's own: LINK


Edit: LINK How's this for "rigid"?
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 11:23 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:30 pm to
Jimmy Chamberlin and Danny Carey are as good as any of the drummers you guys are talking about.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 12:31 am
Posted by Andre
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:33 pm to
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Well no shite. I wish I had thought of "really going back and watching the live performances" instead of doing whatever lifelong Zep fans do.


Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:37 pm to
carl palmer
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:54 am to
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Rush is a niche band. Its a huge niche, but still a niche.

What niche is that?
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:59 am to
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What niche is that?


Not sure... they may be polarizing, but I wouldnt call them niche...

Their songs were played across popular radio in their hey day...

edit:oh yeah, he's talented but not for my taste..
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 9:00 am
Posted by 54BogTiger
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:38 am to
Upvote for Terrence Higgins, guys a monster, a human metronome.

Saw him on TV with Warren Haynes band week or so ago, layin the funky stuff down. Just need one more Func Haus reunion @ Varsity!
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:46 am to
If he were alive, John Bonham wouldn't agree. I am sure his son doesn't agree.
Posted by Mad_Mardigan
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:47 am to
Niche-an opportunity to sell a particular product to a particular group of people

I dunno about y'all but it seems every band would fall into this category.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:54 am to
He's very flashy so for people that don't know a lot about drumming, he looks like he's really good.
Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:05 am to
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If he were alive, John Bonham wouldn't agree. I am sure his son doesn't agree.


He wouldn't disagree either.

He would be too high/drunk to participate in the conversation.

My list:
-Bonham
-Moon
-Baker
-Chamberlin
-Carey

Bonham is 1 but other than that I can change them on any given day. Bonham & Moon are like the Hendrix of drums IMO. They were all over the place, not overly technical, and they played whatever felt good...it came from the soul

Honorable Mention:
-Grohl (makes his way to top 5 from time to time)
-Matt Abts (not flashy or super well known but I've always enjoyed his playing)
-Josh Freese
-Taylor Hawkins (personal favorite modern drummer)
-Travis Barker (love him or hate him, you can't say he isn't talented)
-Tony Royster Jr.
-Zak Starkey
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 10:29 am
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:29 am to
Ginger Baker
Keith Moon
Buddy Rich


much much much better
Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:33 am to
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He's very flashy so for people that don't know a lot about drumming, he looks like he's really good.



Eh...that's a bit unfair to say. He IS flashy but that doesn't mean he isn't good. He's extremely talented. You can't sit behind a kit like his and play it as well as he does if you aren't good. He's creative as hell too.

ETA: He's discussed using a click before. I don't think many guys could play with Rush without one. 2+ hours of playing in front of a paying audience with as many time changes as they have? I would do it as well.

ETA2: Why doesn't Ringo get more love in these discussions? By no means is he the GOAT but he's extremely underrated. "Least talented" Beatle? Probably, but that's like being 4th in your class at MIT. When Lennon released his first solo album, who did he tap for a drummer? Ringo

Steve Smith (mainly known for being in Journey but EXTREMELY well respected in drum circles)
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One of Ringo's great qualities was that he composed unique, stylistic drum parts for the Beatles' songs. His parts are so signature to the songs that you can listen to a Ringo drum part without the rest of the music and still identify the song


Phil Collins
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Starr is vastly underrated. The drum fills on the song "A Day in the Life" are very complex things. You could take a great drummer today and say, 'I want it like that.' He wouldn't know what to do.


Lennon
quote:

There's something in him that is projectable and he would have surfaced as an individual ... Ringo is a damn good drummer.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 10:47 am
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Keith Moon
Buddy Rich




Buddy Rich
Bonham
Moon

This would be my top 3
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:40 am to
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most likely the most overrated drummer in the last 30 years.



Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:49 am to
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dukke v



I knew you would be here eventually Peej

He has a point though. Peart has been elevated to some deity like status for some reason. He's damn good but "music geeks" have gone too far with it.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:20 am to
He cant hold Jon Fishmans jock
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:55 am to
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he's even stated that the fans overrate him, putting him on some god like pedestal.

He's a very modest man. WTF do you think he would say? You just like to bash Rush which is fine and call him overrated and then you drop Bonham's name. Which is funny. They're totally different so it really comes down to who do you prefer. Is either choice going to be wrong?

I don't think there is a best drummer. Here are the ones I like though:

Stephen Perkins
Glenn Kotche
Keith Moon
Stewart Copeland
Larry Mullen, Jr
Danny Carey
Bun E Carlos
Liberty DeVitto
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