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re: Is there anyone who DOESN'T think Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:56 am to LSUnowhas2
Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:56 am to LSUnowhas2
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If he were alive, John Bonham wouldn't agree. I am sure his son doesn't agree.
His son would probably say Phil Collins.
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:51 pm to Cdawg
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I don't think there is a best drummer. Here are the ones I like though:
Bingo. It isn't like a football player or something where there is something to actually measure like yards, YPC, completion %, TDs, etc. Can you say a guy is the best because he's the fastest drummer? Here's your guy if you do.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:54 pm to Cdawg
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His son would probably say Phil Collins.
He's on the list.
For the TL:DR crowd (no particular order):
-Phil Collins
-John Bonham
-Joe Morello
-Stewart Copeland
-Keith Moon
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:11 pm to DyeHardDylan
There are many people who don't believe that.. It's a subjective thing. I've played with several drummers that I think are better than Neil Peart. But they are completely different in their styles. One of the best current drummers in the world is Mississippi-native Keith Carlock. Tours with Steely Dan. JOSIE
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:39 pm to JuiceTerry
First off, how has this seriously gone 3 pages and no ones posted this:
LINK
Second, Ringo Starr wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.
Lastly, the answer you're looking for is John Bonham.
LINK
Second, Ringo Starr wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.
Lastly, the answer you're looking for is John Bonham.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:57 pm to DyeHardDylan
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For real though....
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:13 pm to JuiceTerry
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Mississippi-native Keith Carlock.
Agree with this.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:50 pm to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:24 pm to Dandy Lion
Bill Bruford and his time signatures are outrageous.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:30 pm to John McClane
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Danny Carey
Lol no
Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:10 pm to The Dudes Rug
I'm not saying he is the best, but Chad Sexton doesn't get the recognition he deserves imo
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:05 am to JuiceTerry
Saw Keith Carlock with John Mayer a few years ago. He's outstanding.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:32 am to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:17 am to DyeHardDylan
Peart is what he is - a very innovative and busy drummer who is a perfect fit for his band. Another thing that is overlooked is his musicality which drummers rarely bring to a band - when they do - you notice it.
The singing drummers (Levon Helm, Phil Collins and Don Henley, most noticeably) seem to pull this off, but they are often multi-instrumentalists. Peart also wrote the lyrics for virtually every Rush song since his arrival.
For a pure rock and roll band, Bonham is best drummer ever. Literally the template - so very solid with the beat, and yet pulled off some complex rhythms, fills and solos to accent the music. Exactly what you would want - or at least a baseline from which to start.
Moon the Loon wasn't really a drummer, although he played the drums. John Entwistle pretty much had to keep the beat, and maintain the groove - what Moon did was contribute what a keyboard player or "world precussionist" would, but on a standard drum kit. Yes, he would occasionally keep the beat for a few measures, but not reliably - he was a great musician, but not anything like a traditional drummer is expected to do. In the grand scheme of things, The Who is a classic example of the whole being significantly greater than the sum of the parts. Entwistle was the really gifted musician here - Daltrey was adequate as a singer, Townshend was a rhythm guitarist trying to be a lead, and albeit a brilliant songwriter, was one of the weaker guitar players for a band of that stature.
Amongst the "younger" drummers (yeah, buddy, I'm old, what of it?) - Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Probot, Dem Crooked Vultures, et al) has to be mentioned here, although he is not, primarily, a drummer with the Foo Fighters. His work with Nirvana is underrated, frankly, in the shadow of their frontman. It should stand on its own.
Matt Cameron (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam) is another drummer I would recommend to a kid just starting out. Another guy who can shift in and out of various polyrhythms, relatively seamlessly. Of course, he has played with some pretty good bass players in his day. While I don't have Brad Wilk (RATM, Audioslave) quite in the same level, he's another guy who seems to stand out when I hear him on something.
Finally, Danny Carey (Tool) is my favorite drummer of the past 20 years, or so. For all the complextities of Tool's music, the dark lyrics and the almost improvisational feel of much of their work, I always find myself listening to the drums - just exceptional.
The singing drummers (Levon Helm, Phil Collins and Don Henley, most noticeably) seem to pull this off, but they are often multi-instrumentalists. Peart also wrote the lyrics for virtually every Rush song since his arrival.
For a pure rock and roll band, Bonham is best drummer ever. Literally the template - so very solid with the beat, and yet pulled off some complex rhythms, fills and solos to accent the music. Exactly what you would want - or at least a baseline from which to start.
Moon the Loon wasn't really a drummer, although he played the drums. John Entwistle pretty much had to keep the beat, and maintain the groove - what Moon did was contribute what a keyboard player or "world precussionist" would, but on a standard drum kit. Yes, he would occasionally keep the beat for a few measures, but not reliably - he was a great musician, but not anything like a traditional drummer is expected to do. In the grand scheme of things, The Who is a classic example of the whole being significantly greater than the sum of the parts. Entwistle was the really gifted musician here - Daltrey was adequate as a singer, Townshend was a rhythm guitarist trying to be a lead, and albeit a brilliant songwriter, was one of the weaker guitar players for a band of that stature.
Amongst the "younger" drummers (yeah, buddy, I'm old, what of it?) - Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Probot, Dem Crooked Vultures, et al) has to be mentioned here, although he is not, primarily, a drummer with the Foo Fighters. His work with Nirvana is underrated, frankly, in the shadow of their frontman. It should stand on its own.
Matt Cameron (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam) is another drummer I would recommend to a kid just starting out. Another guy who can shift in and out of various polyrhythms, relatively seamlessly. Of course, he has played with some pretty good bass players in his day. While I don't have Brad Wilk (RATM, Audioslave) quite in the same level, he's another guy who seems to stand out when I hear him on something.
Finally, Danny Carey (Tool) is my favorite drummer of the past 20 years, or so. For all the complextities of Tool's music, the dark lyrics and the almost improvisational feel of much of their work, I always find myself listening to the drums - just exceptional.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:04 am to CoCo311
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Second, Ringo Starr wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.
John famously said that when he was asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world. However, shortly before his death, he also famously said this:
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I don't know what he would have ended up as, but whatever that spark is in Ringo that we all know but can't put our finger on -- whether it is acting, drumming or singing I don't know -- there is something in him that is projectable and he would have surfaced with or without the Beatles. Ringo is a damn good drummer. He is not technically good, but I think Ringo's drumming is underrated the same way Paul's bass playing is underrated. Paul was one of the most innovative bass players ever. And half the stuff that is going on now is directly ripped off from his Beatles period. He is an egomaniac about everything else about himself, but his bass playing he was always a bit coy about. I think Paul and Ringo stand up with any of the rock musicians. Not technically great -- none of us are technical musicians. None of us could read music. None of us can write it. But as pure musicians, as inspired humans to make the noise, they are as good as anybody.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:46 am to Bigpoppat
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I'm not saying he is the best, but Chad Sexton doesn't get the recognition he deserves imo
completely agree.
his Applied Science solo's from the 90's are legendary.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 3:04 pm to Ace Midnight
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John famously said that when he was asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world.
You do realize I knew this and didn't just happen to say the exact same thing, right?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 3:55 pm to DyeHardDylan
Me .....
Bruford
Billy Cobham
John Micheal Waldon
to name a few ....
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Bill Bruford and his time signatures are outrageous.
Bruford
Billy Cobham
John Micheal Waldon
to name a few ....
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 3:56 pm to DyeHardDylan
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who DOESN'T think Neil Peart is the best drummer of all time?
probably neil peart
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:11 pm to DyeHardDylan
Very good and...
John Bonham
George Grantham
Buddy Rich
Mitch Mitchell
in no particular order.
John Bonham
George Grantham
Buddy Rich
Mitch Mitchell
in no particular order.
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