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re: Dionne Warwick: I don't think there's any classic or iconic music artists in today's music
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:03 pm to MojoGuyPan
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:03 pm to MojoGuyPan
quote:
Back in the day those acts were considered crap...
A lot of them still are. Madonna has become a literal parody of herself and folks just want her to go away.
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:07 pm to Bench McElroy
Josh groban and celime dion, Michael buble
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:09 pm to Bench McElroy
I bet she doesnt listen to extreme forms of metal.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:10 pm to Bench McElroy
How would somebody that isn't iconic get a say in who's considered iconic?
Beyonce was the 1st to come to mind. Hell throw in Britney in her prime.
Beyonce was the 1st to come to mind. Hell throw in Britney in her prime.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:18 pm to TH03
quote:
Post Malone
Lil Wayne
Miley Cyrus
TSwift
Ariana Grande
Cardi B
Lil Nas
Don't belong on this list
Post Malone
Lil Wayne
Miley Cyrus
TSwift
Ariana Grande
Cardi B
Lil Nas
Don't belong on this list
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:23 pm to Bench McElroy
I don't think she's wrong. There are certainly very few; if any. I could make the argument for Coldplay, Tool, Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, or maybe Dave Matthews Band - I'm sure there are a couple of others I'm forgetting.
That's not to say that there isn't good music being made today (e.g., The War on Drugs), but I'm not too sure if they'd be classified as "classic" or "iconic" in the sense that she's talking about it.
That's not to say that there isn't good music being made today (e.g., The War on Drugs), but I'm not too sure if they'd be classified as "classic" or "iconic" in the sense that she's talking about it.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:29 pm to Buckeye06
quote:Dionne is inflating her own status. Beyonce is already bigger than Dionne was and Adele is just as iconic.
Adele
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:38 pm to Bench McElroy
Most music today isn't really music. Every few songwriters who actually write songs.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:48 pm to eScott
quote:
Artist used to write songs for movies, now movies just use old songs
That's because it's just easier to use a song that is already made than to pay someone to write a song specifically for a movie.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:53 pm to Bench McElroy
I think that in order to avoid this thread becoming (or remaining) circular, y'all need to reach consensus on what defines "iconic".
As the OT is wont to do, the current definition seems to be "if I personally don't like the artist, he or she isn't iconic"
As the OT is wont to do, the current definition seems to be "if I personally don't like the artist, he or she isn't iconic"
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:58 pm to Walking the Earth
IYAM Lennon was an overrated songwriter and a terrible human being, but absolutely he is iconic.
The Stones don't do much for me but they are iconic too.
The Stones don't do much for me but they are iconic too.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:59 pm to Lou Pai
How is that funny?
I can go on Spotify and find whatever I want whenever I want. There is more music now and it's more accessible than ever.
The only people who laugh at that are too lazy to find better music.
I can go on Spotify and find whatever I want whenever I want. There is more music now and it's more accessible than ever.
The only people who laugh at that are too lazy to find better music.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:01 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:
As the OT is wont to do, the current definition seems to be "if I personally don't like the artist, he or she isn't iconic"
Basically.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:03 pm to Bench McElroy
That's what Friends are For was my 5th grade graduation song.
But frick her old asss.
Give me the Red Hot Chili Peppers over her everyday.
Started in 80s, went mainstream by 1991.
Icon Status implies they were unique, popular, and have staying power. I'd say that they have it. High School Kids today know their music. And they are still touring.
GTFO ole crotchety arse.
But frick her old asss.
Give me the Red Hot Chili Peppers over her everyday.
Started in 80s, went mainstream by 1991.
Icon Status implies they were unique, popular, and have staying power. I'd say that they have it. High School Kids today know their music. And they are still touring.
GTFO ole crotchety arse.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:12 pm to Bench McElroy
Top 50 songs from 1986. I just randomly searched for top songs for a year in the 80's. I ironically Warwick had the top song that year.
How many of these songs from 33 years ago you would recognize if they played on the radio? For me it's all 50. Now take 2019, do you think the top 50 songs of 2019 will be recognizable to someone who's a teenager in 33 years?
1. That's What Friends Are For - Dionne Warwick, Elton John, and Gladys Knight
2. Say You, Say Me - Lionel Richie
3. I Miss You - Klymaxx
4. On My Own - Patti Labelle and Michael McDonald
5. Broken Wings - Mr. Mister
6. How Will I Know - Whitney Houston
7. Party All the Time - Eddie Murphy
8. Burning Heart - Survivor
9. Kyrie - Mr. Mister
10. Addicted to Love - Robert Palmer
11. Greatest Love of All - Whitney Houston
12. Secret Lovers - Atlantic Starr
13. Friends & Lovers - Carl Anderson and Gloria Loring
14. Glory of Love (Theme from "the Karate Kid, Pt. II") - Peter Cetera
15. West End Girls - Pet Shop Boys
16. There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) - Billy Ocean
17. Alive and Kicking - Simple Minds
18. Never - Heart
19. Kiss - Prince and The Revolution
20. Higher Love - Steve Winwood
21. Stuck With You - Huey Lewis and The News
22. Holding Back the Years - Simply Red
23. Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel
24. Sara - Starship
25. Human - Human League
26. I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
27. Take My Breath Away - Berlin
28. Rock Me Amadeus - Falco
29. Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
30. You Give Love a Bad Name - Bon Jovi
31. When the Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get Going - Billy Ocean
32. When I Think of You - Janet Jackson
33. These Dreams - Heart
34. Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone) - Glass Tiger
35. Live to Tell - Madonna
36. Mad About You - Belinda Carlisle
37. Something About You - Level 42
38. Venus - Bananarama
39. Dancing On the Ceiling - Lionel Richie
40. Conga - Miami Sound Machine
41. True Colors - Cyndi Lauper
42. Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins
43. What Have You Done for Me Lately - Janet Jackson
44. No One Is to Blame - Howard Jones
45. Let's Go All the Way - Sly Fox
46. I Didn't Mean to Turn You On - Robert Palmer
47. Words Get In the Way - Miami Sound Machine
48. Manic Monday - Bangles
49. Walk of Life - Dire Straits
50. Amanda - Boston
How many of these songs from 33 years ago you would recognize if they played on the radio? For me it's all 50. Now take 2019, do you think the top 50 songs of 2019 will be recognizable to someone who's a teenager in 33 years?
1. That's What Friends Are For - Dionne Warwick, Elton John, and Gladys Knight
2. Say You, Say Me - Lionel Richie
3. I Miss You - Klymaxx
4. On My Own - Patti Labelle and Michael McDonald
5. Broken Wings - Mr. Mister
6. How Will I Know - Whitney Houston
7. Party All the Time - Eddie Murphy
8. Burning Heart - Survivor
9. Kyrie - Mr. Mister
10. Addicted to Love - Robert Palmer
11. Greatest Love of All - Whitney Houston
12. Secret Lovers - Atlantic Starr
13. Friends & Lovers - Carl Anderson and Gloria Loring
14. Glory of Love (Theme from "the Karate Kid, Pt. II") - Peter Cetera
15. West End Girls - Pet Shop Boys
16. There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) - Billy Ocean
17. Alive and Kicking - Simple Minds
18. Never - Heart
19. Kiss - Prince and The Revolution
20. Higher Love - Steve Winwood
21. Stuck With You - Huey Lewis and The News
22. Holding Back the Years - Simply Red
23. Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel
24. Sara - Starship
25. Human - Human League
26. I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
27. Take My Breath Away - Berlin
28. Rock Me Amadeus - Falco
29. Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
30. You Give Love a Bad Name - Bon Jovi
31. When the Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get Going - Billy Ocean
32. When I Think of You - Janet Jackson
33. These Dreams - Heart
34. Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone) - Glass Tiger
35. Live to Tell - Madonna
36. Mad About You - Belinda Carlisle
37. Something About You - Level 42
38. Venus - Bananarama
39. Dancing On the Ceiling - Lionel Richie
40. Conga - Miami Sound Machine
41. True Colors - Cyndi Lauper
42. Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins
43. What Have You Done for Me Lately - Janet Jackson
44. No One Is to Blame - Howard Jones
45. Let's Go All the Way - Sly Fox
46. I Didn't Mean to Turn You On - Robert Palmer
47. Words Get In the Way - Miami Sound Machine
48. Manic Monday - Bangles
49. Walk of Life - Dire Straits
50. Amanda - Boston
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:59 pm to xiv
quote:
There’s more good music now than ever before. If you can’t find it, you’re lazy.
This x 100
Hint: it’s not on the radio.
Oddly enough, there is some great music to be found in the background of tv shows.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:01 pm to Bench McElroy
It's all rap and club music garbage
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:04 pm to Bench McElroy
There is plenty of great music out there right now but it doesn't get played on the radio. The music industry has stopped seeking out truly talented musicians because it's easier to find someone who looks the part and use marketing and autotune to make them famous.
And in this scenario the studio has all the power when it comes to contract negotiations.
And on the other side of the coin, because it's so easy to produce your own music and distribute it on the internet, the truly great artists realize they don't need a studio to be taking half their income.
The internet has been great for music but it has been awful for the radio. It's their own fault though because the radio stations are owned/controlled by the studios.
And in this scenario the studio has all the power when it comes to contract negotiations.
And on the other side of the coin, because it's so easy to produce your own music and distribute it on the internet, the truly great artists realize they don't need a studio to be taking half their income.
The internet has been great for music but it has been awful for the radio. It's their own fault though because the radio stations are owned/controlled by the studios.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:06 pm to TH03
quote:
Don't belong on this list.
Post Malone sucks and goes out of his way to suck
T Swift ......she did the same thing
Miley Cyrus because she is wasting incredible singing talent by doing pop style crap.....
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:07 pm to Bench McElroy
I find that people who say there is no good music today are the same people that are too lazy to venture out past the mainstream radio stuff
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