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re: Did anyone here attend the 1985 Live Aid concert, or watch it live on television?

Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:24 am to
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:24 am to
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Freddie did have a problem with his voice and was not 100% (probably shouldn't have performed, based on medical advice). Just imagine that performance being even better.


Was this actually the case in 1985? I don't recall hearing that, but I know they just finished a world tour a couple of months before Live Aid.

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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:29 pm to
Eric Clapton attributes his smokin performance at Live Aid 1985 as getting his career back on track in the mid 80’s.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Was this actually the case in 1985?


I think it is pretty well documented. I mean, he obviously was HIV positive and probably in the early stages of AIDs, so it shouldn't be surprising that an infection might work harder on him than it might normally.

I think it is a given that he was advised by doctors to skip it. I think they had only been off the road after some gigs for a few weeks.

(If you're thinking of the movie where he tells the band he had AIDs right before, I think that was revisionism for dramatic effect - perhaps conflating both those things into a single event. I'm just talking about a throat infection here for Live Aid.)
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:59 pm to
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(If you're thinking of the movie where he tells the band he had AIDs right before, I think that was revisionism for dramatic effect - perhaps conflating both those things into a single event. I'm just talking about a throat infection here for Live Aid.)


He may have had a throat infection or issues from just completing a long tour, and I've just never read about it...couldn't find it online either.
But I do know that the whole {Timeline/Not having his voice one week before LIVE AID/band being broken up before live aid/Coughing up blood before going on stage/even knowing he had AIDS at that time} was fabricated for the movie.
Posted by percy
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:06 pm to
In Phil Collins recent autobiography he devotes a whole chapter on how he was unfairly blamed for Led Zeppelin's set at Live Aid for multiple reasons including: 1.The Concorde thing was not his idea, it was pretty much thrust upon him by Live Aid. 2.Robert Plant practically begged Phil to get him on the Live Aid schedule.Phil got him on for what was supposed to be a Robert Plant solo set which Phil agreed to perform on. 3.Robert Plant's manager had the idea to add Jimmy Page to the performance and when John Paul Jones found out he forced his way in (Plant didn't want him).4. Collins said before he knew it the set became a "Zeppelin" reunion instead of a relaxed jam with Robert that he thought it would be and he didn't have proper time to rehearse.5.He said Page was smacked out on heroin that day and was drooling and out of tune.6. Robert was hoarse. Tony Thompson was a jerk and wouldn't work with him on the songs.7. The whole band was a jerk to MTV VJ Alan Hunter during the after performance interview on MTV and he had to take the whole thing over.8. The band blamed him (Collins) for the horrible set for all these years.
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:37 pm to
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He may have had a throat infection or issues from just completing a long tour, and I've just never read about it...couldn't find it online either.


He was a private guy and a lot is speculation. The reason why 1984 is iffy is that he was clearly in pretty good health until around mid-1985 (Live Aid).

ETA: Now,around 1984 he started noticing the now telltale Karposi sarcoma, which he initially attributed to bruising. Over time, that became harder to ignore.

The tests were poor for HIV/AIDs back then and he may or may not have gotten a positive ELISA (an early, imperfect HIV testing protocol) test as early as 1984.

Even if that happened, what would it have meant? Doctors might have said, "We just don't know. This test gives false positives. This is uncharted territory for a lot of us." But, in 1985, Rock Hudson died on October 2nd. With Freddie's lifestyle and concerns, I believe he had received at least one positive test around that time, with however much certainty it conveyed.

Certainly after that, Freddie suspicions about his health narrowed to this focus. Swollen lymph nodes are a very common symptom, so voice problems are almost expected. Also, Freddie's behavior and carousing were significantly curtailed from late 1985 onward.

So, did he "know" at Live Aid? Maybe not. Probably not definitively, in any case. Did he suspect it? I would say almost certainly. Obviously, the tests got better until early 1987 when Western Blot came out. Freddie certainly knew by the end of the Spring that year, as he also had a lymph node biopsy.
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Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Certainly after that, Freddie suspicions about his health narrowed to this focus. Swollen lymph nodes are a very common symptom, so voice problems are almost expected. Also, Freddie's behavior and carousing were significantly curtailed from late 1985 onward.


He hung on for a good long while after that....didn't pass away until '91
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:46 pm to
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He hung on for a good long while after that....didn't pass away until '91


Some speculate he was infected on his first or second trip to New York in the late 1970s. Even before the more effective treatment regimens emerged in the mid-to-late 1990s, it wasn't uncommon to live with the disease 5 to 11 years, and Freddie may have held on 12 to potentially 14 or 15.

Frankly, from what we know about the guy, his regret was probably less from dealing with it, himself, and more that he almost certainly infected a number of others.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:10 pm to
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I just don't remember that level of pyrotechnics being used back then


Huh? Yea, all the bands had back then was musical ability which I guess is boring.

With that said, I watched some of it on tv but those bands were considered bloated old people's music by '85 so i wasnt really impressed. Plus I had grown up listening to them and seeing them on Night Flight, Midnight Special, Don Kirshner, etc. so they were nothing new.
Posted by RebelTheBear
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:27 pm to
I've read that he wasn't diagnosed until 1987, but it was obvious before then that something was wrong with Freddie. Also, the point about him telling his fellow band mates about his condition was indeed fabricated for the movie in an attempt to raise the stakes of the Live Aid concert for plot purposes. The movie also omitted the tour that Queen went on preceding Live Aid.

Something else I found interesting is that he didn't tell the rest of the band until a short-ish time before his death. I don't know exactly when, but it wasn't long before his death that they received the news.

For someone with a very outgoing stage presence, he certainly had a bit of an introverted personal life. There's a good YouTube documentary on Queen if anyone is interested.

Queen Documentary
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Ace Midnight


Good points all...thanks!
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:37 pm to
Even if the Plant/Page set was considered "bad," I still watched the shite out of it on a worn VHS cassette.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:43 am to
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I watched it on TV, but I don't remember seeing Queen.

This and I only remember little bits from their set being shown. Of course by '85 I felt Queen was way past their prime of '79. To me, some of the other acts were a bigger deal.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:25 pm to
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To anyone that saw it live/on TV - what was it like?
On TV. Mono and shitty resolution.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:32 pm to
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It's hard for me to think that there were better live shows back then, then there are now.
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:43 pm to
I saw most of it. I was on vacation at my sister's place in
St. Petersburg, Fl. I do remember I didn't really know a lot about Led Zeppelin at the time, but I remember being underwhelmed after all the hype, and then also thinking Queen kicked arse.

I was only 14, so I didn't appreciate it as much as I would have if I'd been a little older.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:01 am to
def leppard, isn't this the first concert back with Rick Allen without his arm?

they did great as well....
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Posted by Treacherous Cretin
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:29 pm to
I watched Live Aid. I spent the whole day watching it. It was awesome (except for the Zeppelin train wreck).

I liked Queen's hits, and really loved the whole News of the World album. I lost interest in the 80's. To this day I don't own any of their albums after The Game. I liked Flash Gordon but that was kind of cheesy. I was not a fan of their latest single Radio Ga Ga at all. My first exposure was Killer Queen. They were moving in a direction that didn't appeal to me and I had pretty much written them off. I was only interested in hearing their older tunes.

I've never seen anything before or since like the way Freddie took over that stadium during Radio Ga Ga. I was in awe. I don't even like the song and I still get caught up in it. I'd never play it on the jukebox. But I've watched that performance dozens of times. I've never seen anyone own a crowd like Freddie did that day. Greatest performance in rock history as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 10:09 pm to
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def leppard, isn't this the first concert back with Rick Allen without his arm?



No, it was too soon. They were invited, but just weren't ready. Rick lost the arm, initially, at the very end of 1984. They re-attached it for a time, but had to reamputate because of an infection that threatened the other arm. He didn't return to playing drums for quite some time.

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they did great as well....




You may be thinking of the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in April 1992 (almost 7 years after Live Aid). At that point, one of Def Leppard's guitarists (Steve Clark) had died, they recorded Adrenalize without him and had just added Dio's former guitar player, Vivian Campbell as his replacement. The Freddie Mercury concert was their first (I think first, or first major) show with Vivian.

They always do well.


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