re: X-Men: Apocalypse ***SPOILERS*** and Review Thread

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Children of Men flopped. Does that make Alfonso Cuaron the problem

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Where are you going with this fallacy? Are you trying to say xmen flopped?

I thought the movie was fantastic. I don't know if it was better than Days of Future Past, but I'd say it was right up there. They've set up nicely for a string of X-Men movies going forward, so I hope they continue with the franchise now that they have officially formed the team. They should treat Jennifer Lawrences' character the same way they're handling Will Smith's character from Independence Day, should she choose not to come back.

I did think the movie was a bit too long in parts, but I think the world building has to be done because of these long time jumps between films. I thought this movie did a much better job at least trying to make it feel like the previous two movies happened a long time ago even if the actors don't look much older.

This was a different take on Apocalypse. I do think he should have been made taller (7 - 8 feet) and been given a more muscular build. As powerful as he was, he looked quite frail and didn't really do much of anything in the film. The sequence between him and Professor Xavier going on inside his head should have been something he does in the real world with the X-Men working together trying to figure out a way to bring him down.

I finally saw it. I liked it. It was not as good as DOFP, but I thought it was a good movie.

I think some of the things that worked were the same things that have always worked in Singer's movies. He put's a lot of life behind his characters. The main characters are always very deep and we're always given great character development. The reasoning behind why characters do what they do is always well established and very deep. He doesn't always just go for flash. We've already gotten so much development at this point with Magneto, Charles, and Mystique. He continues to do that here. The relationship between Charles and Eric has always been focal point and very interesting. All four of the actors who have played them are top notch and they always give great performances.

I think a big downfall for me was Apocalypse. From his design, stature, and even the character himself. To me he just didn't fit that well in Singer's world. It was the first time Singer had to do a character with no real personality or inner struggle. He wasn't human. In previous movies most of the characters were in some way relatable. Even the bad guys.

I understand that Apocalypse is a major part of X-Men's universe and he has to make an appearance. I'm just not sure if this was the right environment for his appearance. I think that's one of the reason's Singer has stuck so close to the human characters. I don't think he likes the idea of an emotionless character.

I don't know. That's just how it felt to me. I also was not impressed with the character's stature in the movie. He just didn't have a very strong presence. I think the actor did a good job, but sometimes presence is more than just acting.

I thought the action sequences were good, but could have been better. This the one and only area I would Zack Snyder a nod over Singer. Singer just can't do the things that Snyder does with visual action. But again, that's just not the style that Singer is going after. Give me the action of Snyder, the fun of Whedon, and the character development of Singer. I think you'd have the perfect package. Maybe the Russo's are the closest thing to that. Although, both of the Quiksilver action scenes were fricking amazing in every way. They topped the scene from DOFP, and that's tough to do. Singer has done an amazing job with Quiksilver.

7/10

Bro, did you not super nerd out with Phoenix? I sure as hell did. My wife was like wtf is wrong with you?

It don't bother me. I don't pick at comic book movies like some do. I love his character.

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Why hire a known name for 4 lines in a movie?

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Silent Kal Penn in Superman Returns has that beat.



Movie was good not but not great. W/o a second viewing right now I'd give it a B/B+ and rank it 4th or 5th out of the X-Men flicks behind X2, DOFP, FC, and possibly X1 (unless you count Deadpool and that bumps it back a spot to 5/6).

Negatives - mostly little things like Singer straight up ignoring how much older the bulk of the cast is supposed to be, wasting Angel yet again, Psylocke's inconsistent power levels (how does Beast live?), a few odd tonal shifts, Mystique becoming a leader of the team, and Apocalypse seemingly anointing the first mutants he meets. Also, how the frick did Wolverine end up w/Stryker when in DOFP it's clearly Mystique that pulls him from the water?

Positives - the Quicksilver sequences, Magneto undercover in Poland storyline, Wolverine sequence, Apocalypse intro from the past sequence, Cyclops actually being worth a damn for once, Storm actually rocking the accent, Jean and Dark Phoenix set up.

Biggest headscratcher - why set the movie in the 80s if you are barely going to use the era? Aside from light touches like big shoulder pads on Jean's jacket, big rimmed glasses, a couple songs, and a Reagan pic in the military base you might not even notice that this is supposed to be set in the 80s.

All in all, I can see why a lot of critics didn't give it extremely positive reviews. While there are several cool sequences this movie isn't for newcomers and won't convert anyone that is on the fence or doesn't care for them. It doesn't help that the best sequence in the film w/Quicksilver at the mansion (IMO anyway) is basically a complete rehash of his bit from DOFP. There is a lot to like here if you are already an X-Men fan. But for everyone else? This one doesn't have that special moment/hook that can really make it stand out. It could have done it had there been a better use of 80s nostalgia but as it is it's just a basic comic action flick that has several good scenes and happens to be in the 80s. It's also now the second X-Men flick that made me wish I was watching a straight Magneto movie instead. Again, not saying it's a bad movie, just that I couldn't shake the feeling that the parts didn't fully gel as well as they maybe could have. (though its much better than BvS fo sho)

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but then you throw an omage to Weapon X in for absolutely no reason what so ever.

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Someone gets its

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It's also now the second X-Men flick that made me wish I was watching a straight Magneto movie instea

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The XMen movies pretty much are Magneto (and Mystique for some reason) movies. In every movie we get the same exact argument between X and Magneto. I'm ready to move on from that. I enjoyed Apocalypse's character, although I def agree he needed to be better at fighting. I agree the fight he had with X where he grew big should've been the real fight.

I was happy to finally see a deadly wolverine doing his thing. Now I'm ready for a real Juggernaut. Not that garbage from X3.

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Biggest headscratcher - why set the movie in the 80s

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The movies all advance ten years until they get to 2023 which is when the last movie of that series comes out and it ties itself all together.

I got nothing.