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re: X-Men: Apocalypse ***SPOILERS*** and Review Thread

Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:57 am to
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:57 am to
How many people did magneto kill in this movie, though?

He kills like 10 cops, planned to kill about 10-15 plant workers, then destroys buildings all over the world, alters the global sea tables, etc.

Millions?
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:18 am to
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How many people did magneto kill in this movie, though?


This movie didn't half-step. It had real SUPER-villains.

Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:43 am to
and yet the world seems to forgive him in the end.

I would think that any normal human would say OK, these mutants need to be controlled and Magneto needs the death penalty.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:50 am to
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I would think that any normal human would say OK, these mutants need to be controlled and Magneto needs the death penalty.


The X-Men comics in a nutshell.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:02 am to
Well as far as the world knows magneto helped stop him

Now Professor X just being cool with it? Seems odd.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:03 am to
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I would think that any normal human would say OK, these mutants need to be controlled and Magneto needs the death penalty.




I mean that is the whole premise of the humans v mutants. Not sure what you are so upset with. Humans in the X-Man universe are divided when it comes to acceptance of Mutants because of their powers. Did you just skip over the Sentinel storyline? Magneto has been in custody multiple times. It's not like humans can just walk up to magneto's front door and arrest him.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:05 am to
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Now Professor X just being cool with it? Seems odd.


His family was killed yet again. Now it doesn't excuse what Magneto did but who knows where they go with that story line from here. Wasn't magneto wearing the helmet while rebuilding the school in the last scene?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:10 am to
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. Wasn't magneto wearing the helmet while rebuilding the school in the last scene?



No.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:13 am to
Also, apocalypse claims he can't control minds? And that's why he wants to merge with prof X?

What the hell was all that missile stuff, then?

He controlled prof X through Magneto's mind? That's not mind control?

This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 11:14 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:19 am to
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The one thing I would agree with others on is that it always seems to come back to Charles and Erik having the same discussion.



Yep. After all of that, the discussion still doesn't change?

Obviously Charles has found a way to exist in the world peacefully, why can't Erik roll with that? I don't understand why he wants to go out into the world and work himself up again.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:05 pm to
I took it as he can't just randomly find mutants or control that which he is unaware of. Beats me though.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Obviously Charles has found a way to exist in the world peacefully, why can't Erik roll with that? I don't understand why he wants to go out into the world and work himself up again.



Erik found peace, then his family was killed after saving a human's life.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:12 pm to
I think you have a better Magneto redemption story had you not had him join the horsemen.
Posted by cincyykid
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
So which movies don't exist In the new time line now. That is what I wanna know because I'm not for sure which movies are things that have happened or are going to happen and what movie events now never happened.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:32 pm to
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So which movies don't exist In the new time line now. That is what I wanna know because I'm not for sure which movies are things that have happened or are going to happen and what movie events now never happened.


X1, 2, 3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Wolverine all took place in an alternate timeline.

First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse take place in the new timeline.

Deadpool is in it's own metaverse.

Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:41 pm to
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X1, 2, 3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Wolverine all took place in an alternate timeline.

First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse take place in the new timeline.


Incorrect....maybe.

X1, 2, 3, X-Men Origins, The Wolverine, First Class and DoFP are all in the same timeline with a few reservations given to DoFP as it relates to X1, X2, X3 (Specifically how Mystique comes into play).

The timeline progressed from X3 to the Future in DoFP. That was the eventual outcome of that timeline, particularly because of Jean's death. (Hence Stewart and McKellan in DoFP +Bobby, Rogue, Kitty, etc).

Logan goes back in time, in that timeline, and changes the future - which leads to Apocalypse. Maybe you can argue that Logan never goes back in time to his own timeline, therefore there are 3 timelines, everything but DoFP and Apocalypse which each exist in their own timeline.

At least that's how I read it.

quote:

Deadpool is in it's own metaverse.



Eh, if the X-Force rumors are true, then Deadpool will be in the current timeline.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:45 pm to
wouldn't it have made more sense to have the time travel somehow have awoken Apocalypse ? Otherwise it seems tough to explain how he was not present in the first timeline.

Also, I guess they aren't going to explain how Stryker still got a hold of Wolverine? They probably should have just cut that from DOFP since they did absolutely nothing with it.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:48 pm to
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wouldn't it have made more sense to have the time travel somehow have awoken Apocalypse ? Otherwise it seems tough to explain how he was not present in the first timeline.


I mean, he's only awoken because of Moira, so it's an easy logical jump to say that that never happened. I don't find it that odd, but yeah the connection was probably more easy to make.

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Also, I guess they aren't going to explain how Stryker still got a hold of Wolverine? They probably should have just cut that from DOFP since they did absolutely nothing with it.


Wolverine did something illegal and Stryker caught him? Is that really a crucial point?
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:54 pm to
then why even have that scene with Mystique at the end of DOFP?
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:57 pm to
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then why even have that scene with Mystique at the end of DOFP?


To show that she's still in "Saving Mutant's" mode, which she was in the beginning of the film, and continued to Apocalypse. Clearly, she didn't save Logan well enough.
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