re: Wonder Woman Movie ***SPOILERS*** Thread

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In the comics the waters of Themyscira are protected by Megalodons (300 ft Great White Sharks) and Zeus's Giant Golden Eagles. That would have been cool as shite to see.

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That would've been awesome. Especially since we had a few shots of some exotic wildlife. Like I said earlier in the thread, they could've spent as long as they wanted in Themyscira and I wouldn't have complained. Ive never really read the comics but what are some of the best WW stories? Wouldn't mind checking them out, especially some of the older ones about her origin.

Caught this movie this afternoon. It was incredible. Gal Gadot is a smoke show, and the story was just awesome. What a great super hero with an interesting back story.

D.C. finally put up a really good movie. Let's hope they can keep it going

Gal Gadot was damn fine, and the movie was great. Not too big of a plot, the Ares twist was great. Characters were well done and worked together well. Finally a movie that wasn't so dark, it even had really good natural humor mixed in perfectly

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Does WW have a little sister named Drusilla?

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There was a Drusilla in the comics, and the TV show turned her from a random Amazon into Wonder Woman's sister.

In the comics, Donna Troy (Wonder Girl) is Wonder Woman's adopted little sister. Though, on Paradise Island, all of the Amazons refer to each other as sister, which can confuse things.

The publishing history of Diana's sister was a bit confusing (prior to writers obsessing over continuity). "Wonder Girl" was originally like Superboy. Wonder Woman as a girl on Paradise Island. When they created the Teen Titans, the editor and writer decided to add Wonder Girl to the Teen Titans, even though she was appearing as a grown woman in Justice League. They later revealed that this was a different Wonder Girl and gave her a backstory of her own.

Finally saw it this weekend. I did enjoy it as an above average superhero movie, fairly good origin story. I think the hype is a little misplaced, but it is this gen's first female lead film, and it is DCEU's first good film, so it makes sense.

Negatives:
1. Can you please quite with the terrible electric guitar theme for Wonder Woman. It's awful and does not fit the character. It's a grating piece of music. And yes, it's bad enough for me to put that at #1. It makes me wince.

2. Zack Snyder's slo-mo - It's disorienting and drags fights out considerably. If they used it more sparingly, then it would have a big impact, but that Amazon/German beach fight was annoying. 3 seconds of normal....3 seconds of Slo Mo. 3 Seconds of Normal, 3 seconds of slo mo. Over and over and over again.

3. The setting. I agree that World War 1 was an odd, sort of misaligned choice.

4. Ares - Nothing special, which is sad. Although the reveal was a nice twist, we didn't really get enough time with either character for it to make a huge impact.

5. Theme - Eh, super duper hokey. I'm surprise some of the folks who like DCEU regardless of past quality like it as much as they do.

Neutral
1. Supporting Cast - They were ok for the most part, nothing special.
2. Score - Mostly Forgettable

Positives
1. Gadot has owned the role, plain and simple. DCEU's casting has been all over the place. They nail it with Cavill, Affleck, and Irons and a few others, totally miss the mark with Eisen and most of the SS cast, but Gadot is pretty great. I was super skeptical (and I still am skeptical of Momoa), but she nailed Diana.

2. Steve Trevor - Pine was great and they used his character well. It almost wasn't convincing enough but they did well. Since most of the side characters were cardboard cutouts, he stood out well.

3. Gadot+Pine Chemistry - It worked really well.

4. Cinematography - It was a well shot film. Effects and Color were a problem, as with most DCEU, but shots were composed very well.

5. Origin Story - Although it wasn't original, that isn't a requirement of mine as not all origins make sense for film. This was a solid origin story, well told and well founded.

6. Humor - Finally, DC, finally.


Overall, above average that is clearly DCEU's best movie to date. That makes everyone excited. The overall story and theme were forced, but at least positive in message, which is something DC has lacked. Humor and Chemistry from the leads made it an enjoyable watch. Solid B+ effort, and I'd look forward to WW Part 2.

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Also I read somewhere that Justice League is bringing back Robin Wright and will explore her characters relationship with her sister, the Queen.

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Yeah, I'm wondering if this has to do with the Amazons having to deal with a Mother Box in the far past or if they actually battled Darkseid's forces at one time.

There's an Amazons V Parademon battle shot in the JL trailer, but no telling if that's historical or present day.

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here's an Amazons V Parademon battle shot in the JL trailer, but no telling if that's historical or present day.

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My guess is present day:

the Amazons took some significant casaulties fighting 3 rowboat's worth of surprised German soldiers, who weren't planning on meeting resistance from anything more than 1 armed pilot. Outside of Diana, none of them appear to have any powers, or any defensive capability, just athletic women, skilled with using 1000 yr old weapons.

Honestly- they are chicks on horseback, fighting with swords, bows and arrows. They would be massacred with little effort by just regular modern military forces, probably with VERY low casualties (just stay out of arrow range and NOBODY gets hurt).
Against the large, futuristic attacking force we see here... the island has no survivors, unless the parademons allow it.

They're near immortals unless violent death. They went easy because puny mortals.

Next time they'll release the bees.

My God. Bees.

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slo-mo

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Interesting. Did feel this way while viewing Guardians 2?

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One thing I didn't like in Wonder Woman was the "Get the Gang Together" part... It was poorly done.

Like.. did the sharpshooter ever snipe a guy?
Was a guy who spoke multiple languages needed?
Was the Indian a soft foot? I could barely hear him..

And then , yay! the money man shows up with no question of his charity..

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Steve Trevor is a spy for the British. The team absolutely makes sense; not necessarily for THIS mission, but overall:

Sharpshooter- maybe he's been involved a lot as Steve's guardian angel and spotter. Scopes things out from a distance, and covers him when he's sneaking into places. He doesn't have the need to cover Steve here, so he's a little out of sorts.

The multiple language guy- who happens to be of non-European descent... he's clearly employed as the driver/servant here, and obviously be useful as undercover agent in lots of circumstances.

Indian dude- a smuggler. He has access to both necessary tools (get me some guns etc), and should also have access to entry into occupied territory, as he knows whose hands to grease to cross borders.

The money man (who happens to be Ares) is OBVIOUSLY the Brit in charge of the operations, at the command level. He's basically M, or an equivalent. Of course he provides funding, and usually he would be the one providing the overall plan.

Steve is the operative, he usually would be the one carrying out the operation, not planning it. In this case, he does plan it, but that's due to his desire to act on the intel he's gained from the other ops.

It's a classic spy story all the way-the British spymaster "officially" toes the government line, and if things go wrong, has plausible deniability to protect his job and the government... Trevor has gone rogue, this isn't a sanctioned op. But, he unofficially supports the op, and even provides some funds from petty cash (enough to do a two day run, to get it started), and remains in contact giving further intel.
I thought it was a good twist, as I really didn't see the Ares bit coming, but it ended up making sense.