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re: Why do Star Wars fans hate the prequels?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 8:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/24/13 at 8:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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well for starters they are bad movies
Starters, enders, and the middle part. Honestly, we saw it coming after the big dip from Empire to Jedi. Everyone was stoked to see the "Origin of" Vader (and this is a rare time when I agreed with that sentiment). It may have been impossible for the prequels to please even a majority of fans.
The casting was inconsistent - however, other than Christenson in Send in the Clones and Revenge of Whiny-A$$ Punk, it wasn't so much the casting as the direction and terrible story - Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor get complete passes from me, as do Portman, Jackson, Lee and others. The story was so dumbed down and insulting. The original movies had something for everybody. The prequels had nothing for anyone over 10 or so.
Lucas was a great storyteller - in the 70s and early 80s - once he became a billionaire, he should have hung it up.
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 8:51 pm to Warfarer
I thought the prequels made Anakin complete. To really understand why he was evil and how he became that way truly does the character justice.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I thought the prequels made Anakin complete. To really understand why he was evil and how he became that way truly does the character justice.
I think the story is great, but they could have left the story to books, comics or animated series like they have now. The films should have pushed forward.
One of the big things I heard when leaving the theater for the second trilogy was, "where the frick are all this fancy tech in the original movies". Meaning, they made the the new movies too clean to be prequels.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:02 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I thought the prequels made Anakin complete. To really understand why he was evil and how he became that way truly does the character justice.
I would disagree, I thought the story was not done well and it's my main issue with the prequels. I thought the way he turned from being a good guy one scene and then killing younglins the next was rushed and not believable.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 9:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
I disagree. They made him completely unlikable every step of the way. By the end of the 3rd movie I'm like "Well ok, frick you then. You ain't never happy about shite anyway!"
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
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. I just don't understand why hardcore fans hate the prequels.
Because we grew up watching good movies whose plots don't fall apart at the slightest bit of inspection.
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To really understand why he was evil and how he became that way truly does the character justice.
Removing the mystery around the character has nearly destroyed his appeal. All you need to know about him is in the originals. Everything else pales in comparison to the history me and others spent a lifetime imagining.
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:11 pm to MontyFranklyn
Somewhere between Empire and Jedi, Lucas lost it.
For fun, take a look at the wiki page for Indy and the Last Crusade at the different stories proposed by Lucas and the ridiculous number of rewrites we had to go through to get the final product. You won't be surprised by Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
For fun, take a look at the wiki page for Indy and the Last Crusade at the different stories proposed by Lucas and the ridiculous number of rewrites we had to go through to get the final product. You won't be surprised by Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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well for starters they are bad movies
They are really really bad.
Movie 1.
This is a kid, born just like Jesus, let's spend the whole movie focusing on a pod race..
Movie 2. This is a kid who is annoying, lets spend the whole movie focusing on following Count Dooku around and see what he is up to.
Movie 3.
Lets finally have action. Then turn Anakin from a good Jedi to an evil child-murderer in a half hour of real time.
Okay. So two movies about BS, then make Darth Vader from Anakin in a few seconds of screen time?
Crap
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:12 pm to elprez00
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Somewhere between Empire and Jedi, Lucas lost it.
He lost it after a new hope. He had very little to do with empire after his "nervous breakdown" or whatever he wants to call it.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:24 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:This. For me, it was the acting. It was as if the actors were reading straight off a cue card while doing the scene.
Because we grew up watching good movies whose plots don't fall apart at the slightest bit of inspection.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:38 pm to MontyFranklyn
Because they suck
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:40 pm to RealityTiger
The scripts were pretty poor, but if the casting was better it could have been somewhat overcome.
The casting was completely wrong, pretty much for all characters involved. (And I like Ewan, Neeson, Samuel Jackson, Portman). They were just totally wrong for this type of movie.
The casting was completely wrong, pretty much for all characters involved. (And I like Ewan, Neeson, Samuel Jackson, Portman). They were just totally wrong for this type of movie.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:40 pm to MontyFranklyn
They could have been so much better than what they were.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:40 pm to cigsmcgee
Jar Jar Binks represents everything that is wrong with Star wars prequels.
Lucas tried to capure the small subtle things that made the first three great and instead he made a giant bowl of horrible shite fricking soup.
I have too many issue to list.
Everything from all the ships and fighters looking like they are 1000 years more advanced when they are supposed to be 18-30 years
older to one of the most
intimidating villans to walk on screen being developed as a whiney douche bitch who is tricked into turning to the DS.
frick!!
By the way. WTF was the reason for making a 90 second musical in the bar scene in RoTJ in the
rerelease? I dont understand
.
Lucas tried to capure the small subtle things that made the first three great and instead he made a giant bowl of horrible shite fricking soup.
I have too many issue to list.
Everything from all the ships and fighters looking like they are 1000 years more advanced when they are supposed to be 18-30 years
older to one of the most
intimidating villans to walk on screen being developed as a whiney douche bitch who is tricked into turning to the DS.
frick!!
By the way. WTF was the reason for making a 90 second musical in the bar scene in RoTJ in the
rerelease? I dont understand
.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 10:51 pm to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:17 pm to elprez00
I honestly don't think Lucas ever had "it". The original Star Wars trilogy was fantastic because it was all based around the hero's journey written about by Joseph Campbell. Star Wars resonates because it is the basic myth story with an interesting setting. Without further guidance, Lucas just showed what he is: an average director who copied the right people.
Edited to compensate for the wine I've consumed
Edited to compensate for the wine I've consumed
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:27 pm to VOLhalla
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I honestly don't think Lucas ever had "it". The original Star Wars trilogy was fantastic because it was all based around the hero's journey written about by Joseph Campbell.
Yeah, but its not like campbell invented the hero arc. Its just classic storytelling that's been around thousands of years.
American grafitti is an awesome movie. Lucas had some chops. He just burned through his good ideas and got lost. Happens to artists all the time.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:30 pm to cigsmcgee
I don't mean to hate on Lucas. He wasn't a hack. I just think he was given a solid blueprint and took advantage.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 11:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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well for starters they are bad movies
Revenge of the Sith is 10x the movie that Return of the Jedi is.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:29 am to Bench McElroy
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Revenge of the Sith is 10x the movie that Return of the Jedi is.
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