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re: Why do Star Wars fans hate the prequels?

Posted on 2/26/13 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 3:36 pm to
Here would be my plot for the prequels:

Episode I: Obi Wan is a 25 year old Jedi Knight who recently lost an apprentice to an unknown figure. Anakin and his brother Owen are huge smugglers who work for a crime boss. Obi Wan comes to the world of the crime boss finding that the death between his apprentice and the crime boss are linked, but Anakin finally pisses off the crime boss by stealing from him, but shows his force power by force choking him to death when his mind games don't work. This blows Obi Wan's plan and cover, for soon they are surrounded by Clones and their overlord Darth Maul. Anakin, Obi Wan, and Owen manage to escape together due to Anakin's impeccable piloting, finding out Darth Maul's plans before they leave.

He is planning on using a molecule igniter to ignite the atmosphere on fire of multiple worlds. Owen insists they must go to the droid production world (first up on Maul's list of planets to be destroyed) because his wife is working on the planet and will not be able to load up on a shuttle to escape in time. They arrive on the droid world with much of Maul's army already present, but they fight through and are able to save Beru and her friend Padme from certain death as the planet ignites behind them.

Alderaan has the Republic's shipping yards on Alderaan and is next up on Maul's conquest to destroy. Mace Windu is already there and basically hates Anakin on sight. Mace Windu leads the fleet against Maul, while Anakin (against orders) flies on his own and is able to infiltrate Maul's flagship with Obi Wan in tow. Obi Wan takes on Maul, but Maul escapes at the last minute as the flagship and the matter ignitor are destroyed, with Obi Wan, Anakin, and Maul barely escaping.

Obi Wan is scorned for his wrecklessness, but also reluctantly praised since he and Anakin saved a whole planet from assured destruction. Mace is pissed his glory has been taken from him, and blames Anakin. A new chancellor (Palpatine) is elected due to the loss of the droid yards. With the lost of the droid yards, the Chanellor must instate a draft, which begins to rip families apart. Obi Wan begins to train Anakin in order to redeem his failure with his last apprentice. The movie ends with Padme kissing Anakin for saving her twice, and they start a budding secret relationship.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 4:12 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:01 pm to
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I would have gone with a trilogy that begins in the heart of the Clone Wars. Obi-Wan Kenobi is a Jedi Knight who happens upon this incredibly gifted star pilot named Anakin. He sees the Force is strong with him but also acknowledges his age and questionable morals would be wrong for the Jedi Order. But Obi-Wan develops a friendship with this young star pilot and decides to train him anyway. The end result is, of course, Darth Vader.


Exactly. I find it creepy jedi's recruit babies. Anakin is like 5, and he's too old? Creepy.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:06 pm to
I don't know what I would do beyond having Anakin fully grown and not starting so long before anything happens, but I know what I wouldn't have:

No
C3po
R2d2
Midichlorians
Couruscant
Younglings (no fricking kids at all)
Yoda with a lightsaber
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:11 pm to
Episode II: 7 years have passed, and the Republic is more war torn than ever. Anakin is now a full Jedi Knight and has recently selected an apprentice, a young 15 year old girl. Owen is now a pilot for the Republic, and has had a huge falling-out with Anakin, who did not approve of him becoming a Jedi due to the fear that he will become even more power hungry and corrupt. Anakin's affair with Padme has evolved and she's basically a concubine to him. Anakin and Obi Wan are renowned as Galactic heroes, never having lost a battle through unorthodox means and loving the limelight, which makes both of them mostly despised and shunned by the Jedi Order.

One day the shite hits the fan: The Jedi Temple and Senate (while in session) are destroyed by a explosion from within, and Maul brings all his forces to destroy Courusant. Almost all the Senators are killed, as are most the Jedi. Anakin and Obi Wan split, with Obi Wan going to help the Jedi who are being invaded at the Temple, and Anakin goes and looks for survivors. Anakin finds Palpatine alive, but greatly mutilated. As he's trying to save Palpatine, he sees clones murdering helpless children, and Anakin loses it, delving into the Dark Side and becoming more powerful than he can believe, destroying dozens of clones at a time.

Maul kidnaps Padme to lure Anakin to him, and fights Maul is almost killed by Anakin, and flees at the last second. Anakin kisses Padme, but Mace Windu appears and sees it. While all this is going on Obi Wan, Owen, and the remaining Jedi/army successfully drive the clones off of Corusant, but at a great price. The majority of the Jedi are dead, with only a few dozen left. Anakin is kicked out of the Jedi Order, despite Obi Wan defending him, and Anakin swears vengeance on Mace and Maul.

Anakin then begins to shun Padme and partially blames her for his fall, but she reveals she's pregnant and forgives her, seeing his future son as a chance at redemption and will teach him the way of the force, but not the dogmatic way he was taught. Palpatine then offers Anakin position of Chief of his Red Guard, and he accepts the position. Palpatine more or less becomes the Emperor, with hardly anyone in the Senate left to govern the Republic. The end shot is Anakin in his Vader garb, only in blood red and no mask.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:18 pm to
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So I mop the floors and turn on the TV. To my horror episode 2 is in my episode 5 case. I guess I no longer own empire. Made a quick trip to eBay and nabbed this



Make sure you select "1980 Original Theatrical Release" or you get all those Lucas "enhancements".
Posted by DelU249
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77625 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:21 pm to
Exactly why I bought it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

C3po
R2d2
Midichlorians
Couruscant
Younglings (no fricking kids at all)
Yoda with a lightsaber


None of these things would be in my story because none of it is interesting or adds to the plot. Maybe some teenagers in a training scenario, but I'm not even married to that idea (because of how poorly it was executed in the prequels). Anakin would be a fallen Jedi, nothing more and definitely not "Space Jesus".
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:22 pm to
A lot of interesting takes. This should have its own thread.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:26 pm to
what you wrote sucks but it is light years better than what Lucas wrote
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:40 pm to
BTW, to the poster who said he was glad the Falcon wasn't in the prequels, it was. The SFX staff added it in the background in AOTC in a Naboo scene.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:46 pm to
Episode III: A mere 3 months have passed, and the Republic (now basically Empire) are on the verge of discovering the cloning facilities of Maul. Anakin is as bitter as ever, being poisoned mentally by Palpatine. Palpatine gives Anakin material to make a new lightsaber, although it is illegal for a non or expunged Jedi to carry one. He constructs it anyway. Obi Wan is going undercover and still friends with Anakin, so they have one last conversation. Obi Wan is able to find the Clone Homeworld, shut down production, and find a kill switch to destroy the clones (this goes on for like 1/2 the movie for Obi Wan).

While that's going on, Palpatine says he has intelligence on where Maul will be somewhere at a certain time, and he sends Anakin alone, because he thinks he's the only one who can do the job. Palpatine also tips off Windu, while Maul thinks he's going to be meeting with his master. All three show up at the same time. Anakin, still loathing Windu for his expulsion, strikes at him as well, with a three way battle that ensues. Windu is able to put off a distress signal, which summons other Jedis to the area. Anakin manages to kill both of them by tapping into the Dark Side, and the Jedi arrive not long after to discover what Anakin did. He kills about half of them before making an escape back to Corusant.

Anakin figures that Palpatine set him up, and goes to kill him for it. Palpatine is far too powerful though, and nearly kills Anakin. Anakin swears fealty towards him and serve him once more. Other jedi show up to arrest both Anakin and Palpatine, but Palpatine kills them all instantly with merely using his mind, and painfully electrocuting their leader to death. One of the Jedi he killed was Anakin's former apprentice, and he swears to avenge her. He starts planning a replacement Jedi Order (with less than twenty left in the Galaxy now), which he'll use to overthrow the Emperor and control the Galaxy for himself, with Obi Wan, Padme, and his future son at his side.

Padme has her twins with Owen and Beru at her side, and Obi Wan comes in to tell her what Anakin has done. Anakin is on his way to see Padme who should have had her son by now. He sends Owen and Beru off with the son and Obi Wan smuggles the daughter to Alderaan. Owen leaves in a different vessel than his flagship, and uses his usual vessel as a distraction, which Anakin then follows and shoots down, giving Obi Wan and Owen time to escape with the actual children. Anakin goes to Padme who claims that she shot down and killed her own son, and she kills Padme for it.

Anakin sees himself screwed now and sees Obi Wan as perhaps his only friend remaining. The Emperor and Yoda duel like last time (except without lightsabers), while Obi Wan goes to confront Anakin in his new fortress on all he's done. Anakin tries to reason him to join him, but they're left with no choice to duel to the death. Obi Wan defeats Anakin by thrusting him into an electric generator, which Obi Wan thinks kills him instantly. Anakin only then realizes that he's become what he's fought against.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

what you wrote sucks but it is light years better than what Lucas wrote



I'm just bullshitting stuff off the top of my head. Sure its not award winning, but I think the basic structure is what the prequels should have followed.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:56 pm to
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I thought the prequels made Anakin complete. To really understand why he was evil and how he became that way truly does the character justice. 


No, that's what they should have done
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

C3po
R2d2


I could deal with cameo appearances, but nothing more.

quote:

Midichlorians



Definitely no.

quote:

Couruscant



Couruscant can certainly work, its just Lucas shat the bed and made it entirely digital. Build some sets for god's sake.

quote:

Younglings (no fricking kids at all)



I can deal with a few kids, but aside from the getting killed, don't really show them.

quote:

Yoda with a lightsaber



Add "Emperor with a lightsaber" to that as well. The Emperor was powerful enough to mock lightsabers and merely look at them as toys.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:01 pm to
Double Post
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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95817 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:04 pm to
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BTW, to the poster who said he was glad the Falcon wasn't in the prequels, it was. The SFX staff added it in the background in AOTC in a Naboo scene.




I choose to interpret that appearance as another in the same class, back in a time when they were more common. Han and the Falcon are NOT ruined forever until (and unless) Abrams ruins them forever - we've got a least a year or two until that happens. I'm holding on to the year or two.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:08 pm to
Yeah, and I also forgot to add no

Dexter jettster and his stupid fricking diner
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:10 pm to
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Dexter jettster and his stupid fricking diner



One of the dumbest things in the prequels. A 50s Diner in Star Wars? WTF.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:18 pm to
I looked it up. According to Lucas the hutt, it's the falcon
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

According to Lucas the hutt, it's the falcon



Okay - so Abrams will only be able to ruin Han Solo, as there's nothing left.
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