re: Who would win? Robert Baratheon in his prime or the Mountain?

Robert while not as strong as Gregor he was certainly faster and strong enough. His skill with his hammer would demolish Gregor pretty easily. Mountain was not skilled just strong.

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Robert while not as strong as Gregor he was certainly faster and strong enough. His skill with his hammer would demolish Gregor pretty easily. Mountain was not skilled just strong.

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I think weapons matter, too. A hammer would frick up a guy in armor a lot more than a sword would. That's why they were invented

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Seems like a strength on strength battle. That axe Robert swung was a bad arse weapon but I’d go with the Mountain because of reach. The opposite approach from the Viper was effective but Robert ain’t dancing around like that.

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I'm inclined to agree. I don't think anyone was going to out-strength the Mountain; you needed speed and reach. The Viper wins that fight if he just keeps his distance... hell, if the last lunge went into the Mountain's throat instead of his chest, it was all over.

I just can't see classic fighters pulling off what Viper did. Even the greatest swordsman (Jamie pre-injury) would have trouble getting within reach and finding the right spots around the armor.

Not that there are 0 scenarios where they win; just a large majority where they don't.

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Robert in his prime was taller than pretty much all of his peers by a head and said to be one of the strongest man in the realm.

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He still wasn't as big, ferocious or had nearly as much hate in his heart as the mountain

Everyone gets owned by those giants though if we are going 1 on 1.

Now that would be entertainment, making the giants fight each other to the death.

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As someone mentioned earlier, Clegane went against the mountain and for intents and purposes, won. By that you could assume that Robert would beat the Mountain but also Brienne of Tarth would take him.

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I think most skilled fighters beat him.

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Clegane went against the mountain and for intents and purposes, won.

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He fought him with a passion no one else would understand. Its a little different with him.

I think Arthur Dayne would have smoked him though.

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Eta: And Robert was said to be very quick for his size.

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No, that was the Mountain. He wasn't just big. He was skilled as well.

Robert's hammer was basically a big can opener. It's a brute force weapon that can kill with one blow but only if it can bully its way through its opponents' defenses.

Ser Gregor wins.

Has to be Robert, it seems like The Mountain got by mostly on his insane size and as we saw with his fight with Oberyn that only means so much. Robert wasn’t going he size of the Mountain or Hound but he was a big dude plus he was one of the best fighters to exist. I have no doubt that he would be able to find any weaknesses Gregor had and exploit it, plus that hammer would definitely help over a normal sword

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The Viper wins that fight if he just keeps his distance... hell, if the last lunge went into the Mountain's throat instead of his chest, it was all over.

I just can't see classic fighters pulling off what Viper did. Even the greatest swordsman (Jamie pre-injury) would have trouble getting within reach and finding the right spots around the armor.

Not that there are 0 scenarios where they win; just a large majority where they don't.

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Everyone mentioning Oberyn are also forgetting that it was hinted at and widely believed that the Viper poisoned his spear.

He didn’t just rope a dope The Mountain until he “got tired”, he waited until the poison slowed/weakened/disoriented/was killing him before he got anywhere close enough to do any real physical damage the way even a great fighter like Robert would have to do.

Also, those claiming that The Hound went toe to toe with him are forgetting that first off, that wasn’t The Mountain. The creature he fought was nowhere near as fast or skilled as Gregor.


And most importantly, that shouldn’t even be considered canon imo, as the showrunners were so far gone by that point there is no telling what GRRM had in store for that battle.

Brienne beating The Hound proves that they were already on their own long before then.

As much as we all wanted to see The Gravedigger take down Gregor-stein, it’s much more likely that we were going to get another bleak ending to a character we wanted to root for, and Gregor rips his still beating heart out and eats it


I like the conversation, and besting Rhaegar proved Robert was undoubtedly one of the great fighters ofWesteros, along with Selmy, and perhaps even Jamie.

But I’ve always been on the Arthur Dayne train. He was the greatest fighter of the era and I don’t think even The Sword of The Morning would have been able to best the other worldly freakishness of Clegane’s size speed and strength.

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Everyone mentioning Oberyn are also forgetting that it was hinted at and widely believed that the Viper poisoned his spear.

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He still needed to score hits that drew blood to pull it off. The Mountain had not scored any real blows on him during the battle; without the poison it's likely the armor and weapon coupled with blood loss would have led to the big man losing anyway, just taking longer.