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re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - Amazon - NOW A BOOK READERS THREAD
Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:43 pm to Bard
Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:43 pm to Bard
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Other things, like how they rushed the flight from Emond's Field to the point where it made Rand's blowup at Moiraine feel awkward and out of place... that makes me wonder exactly how much of a grasp on the story they really have.
The 1st episode, or scenes for that matter, could make you question it.
Edwene's 1st scene was her being happy about being inducted into the women's counsel. Like it was some lifelong dream. She actually thought the women's council was pretty stupid and was glad to let down her hair when she was being trained by Moraine. Right off the bat you're giving her a completely different impression than the book and author want you to have of her.
Moraine's 1st scene (if not 1st, it's early on) is her walking in the hall and showing off her ring and making it clear that she is an Aes Sedai, like that was a good thing and what she wanted the town to know. People were in amazement of it. In the book it tells you they are typically disliked (even after they saved the village) and they were there just as two strangers trying to keep their identity unknown. They didn't find out who she was until they fought off the trollocs. Plus for some reason they knew trollics were coming but waited until the attack to start fighting.
Again, I like the show
but it's like they're going out of their way to make the show very different. Anybody else not crazy about the gleeman? Wasn't expecting him to be an all black outfit serious Strider esque gleeman.
Another stupid question. Were there defining looks/characteristics of people of people in the books? All I got from book one is the red hair and Perrins a bit bulky. I know they are obviously going for diversity in characters but it seems to be a really high number of middle eastern actors
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:53 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Except Rand (geneticall Aiel), everyone in the two Rivers was described as having dark complexion with dark hair and dark eyes. I always envisioned everyone there as being either Mediterranean or Middle Eastern.
Were there defining looks/characteristics of people of people in the books? All I got from book one is the red hair and Perrins a bit bulky.
Based upon the descriptions in the books, the actors are as follows. Rand looks about right, but it’s not tall enough. He should be about 6’5” or 6’6”. Perrin should be about three or 4 inches shorter than Rand, and he should be built like a defense of end. The actor is far too small a guy. Matt is fairly accurate.
Egwene snd Nynaeve look about right, absent the mole, though Italians or Lebanese would’ve been closer than a Nigerian and a Maori.
Lan is about how I envisioned him, but Moraine is too tall. Thom is too young and should have white hair.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:02 pm to Heron_Blade_Master
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Mining Village. The mining village smoothly consolidated several things. First, it replaced Baerlon while saving some set production money in building a small city. Second, it let them introduce Thom separately from the EF4 (Rand/Mat/Perrin/Egwene). That first episode didn't really need still another character introduction. Third, the only interesting thing about Rand/Mat traveling the road from Whitebridge to Caemlyn was the Darkfriend encounter. Playing with Darkfried Dana in the mining village probably makes that entire (boring) trip unnecessary. Hell, it may even make Whitebridge unnecessary as a whole, since Thom fought the Myrddraahl (and lost Mat/Rand) at the farmer's cottage. Even the dead Aielman let them introduce an important story element quickly and easily.
I do agree that episode 3 and 4 consolidated a lot of things that frustrated me about episode 1’s lack of expansion. I was losing my mind at leaving Edmond’s Field without Thom introduced.
After initial frustrations, watching with my Hodor wife and settled down.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:37 pm to Heron_Blade_Master
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As I watch the show, I am doing two things.
First, I am enjoying it stand-alone as a pretty good (not yet "great") visual story.
Second, I am comparing it to the written source material.
That's fair, if you can accept that the on screen material will fall short of your expectations.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:38 pm to 3nOut
quote:Would you mind explaining this reference? I have seen it a few times and do not understand it.
my Hodor wife
Is your wife big, simple and mute?
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:44 pm to Heron_Blade_Master
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Would you mind explaining this reference? I have seen it a few times and do not understand it.
Is your wife big, simple and mute?
Game of Thrones reference. During the GoT years we would have different threads for each episode, the Maesters thread was for the book readers and the Hodor thread was for the non-readers (we eventually had a middle ground thread where non-readers could ask readers questions and readers would do their best to answer without spoiling things).
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:47 pm to wadewilson
quote:That is the thing. I walk into this knowing that they have to edit the story down by half or more. They had no choice other than to consolidate scenes and even delete entire story arcs. So I have no idea what to expect.
If you can accept that the on screen material will fall short of your expectations.
My only “expectation” is that the television show story will vary significantly from the story told in the books.
As an example, it will not surprise me in the slightest if Elyas never makes an appearance in the television series.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:38 pm to Heron_Blade_Master
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Would you mind explaining this reference? I have seen it a few times and do not understand it.
Is your wife big, simple and mute?
1/3 ain’t bad.
Hodor was a reference to GoT threads for non-book readers.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:08 pm to ChexMix
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Robert Jordan is rolling in his grave and any true fan of the books is disappointed.
“True fan” lmao. Get over yourself man.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:46 am to Heron_Blade_Master
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hat is the thing. I walk into this knowing that they have to edit the story down by half or more. They had no choice other than to consolidate scenes and even delete entire story arcs. So I have no idea what to expect.
This is true... but it's still hard to reconcile some of the changes even though I know it can't be a direct translation from book to screen.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:09 am to LSU316
quote:i think people just wanted more of a GOT/LOTR translation and less of Sword of Truth/Deathnote adaptation
I knew book readers weren't going to like this show before the first trailer even came out because no matter how much you want to you can't pace a TV show like a book. You can't flesh out characters, landscapes, and universes in a TV show like you can in a book
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:13 pm to iwyLSUiwy
4 episodes in, and my take is simple.
The two rivers stuff should have been two full episodes.
1 hour of character intros, more on Bal Tine (spelling), followed by 20ish minutes of the attack, and another half hour of heals, goodbyes, weapon transfers, etc. Make the small town bond seem more realistic and difficult to walk away from.
The two rivers stuff should have been two full episodes.
1 hour of character intros, more on Bal Tine (spelling), followed by 20ish minutes of the attack, and another half hour of heals, goodbyes, weapon transfers, etc. Make the small town bond seem more realistic and difficult to walk away from.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 3:20 pm to ChexMix
THey should say "Inspired by Roberts Jordan wheel of time."
instead of calling this wheel of time if they are gonna cut so many things out.
instead of calling this wheel of time if they are gonna cut so many things out.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:12 pm to Duzz
Man the saltiness in this thread is high. I've read the series numerous times and I'm loving the series. Y'all need to chill
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:51 pm to NfamousPanda
Episode 2 was dog shite and Shadar Logoth a disappointment with no Padan Fain. The frick are they doing with the character now? No Mordeth or what?
The Trollocs suck. Why does every scene with a character running look retarded as frick? Trollocs and humans alike.
Again I’ll echo. What the hell went into the budget? They’re VFX crew sucks arse.
And lmao at turning Nyn into a Trolloc slayer ala Arnold in Predator.
I’ll only watch just to see how much worse this gets.
The Trollocs suck. Why does every scene with a character running look retarded as frick? Trollocs and humans alike.
Again I’ll echo. What the hell went into the budget? They’re VFX crew sucks arse.
And lmao at turning Nyn into a Trolloc slayer ala Arnold in Predator.
I’ll only watch just to see how much worse this gets.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:59 pm to Centinel
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Except Rafe has specifically said the polyamory stuff is being cut.
Well shite. I’m definitely out now if that’s the case. A big part of Rand in his relationship with all 3 women and the dynamic it creates.
Showrunner is a titanic fricking tool.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:12 pm to PhineasFreakaZoid
I’d like to bring us all together at this time and introduce WoT memes
LINK
I hope some dank memes heal us all.
LINK
I hope some dank memes heal us all.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:10 pm to Heron_Blade_Master
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Nynaeve overtly channeled in that episode, at a point far earlier than in the books.
Because they're setting her up to be the dragon.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:36 am to ChexMix
Damn you’re a little bitch huh
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:38 am to PhineasFreakaZoid
That’s isn’t true. It’s not being cut.
He said it’s just going to be slightly more polyamory and less polygamy. So that poster is flat out lying.
He said it’s just going to be slightly more polyamory and less polygamy. So that poster is flat out lying.
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