Heron_Blade_Master

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My neighbors have pre-judged this case, and don’t want me representing this fellow

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Shades of To Kill a Mockingbird, without the moral courage of Atticus Finch.

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Liberals already want them to have abortions.

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If you can accept that the on screen material will fall short of your expectations.

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That is the thing. I walk into this knowing that they have to edit the story down by half or more. They had no choice other than to consolidate scenes and even delete entire story arcs. So I have no idea what to expect.

My only “expectation” is that the television show story will vary significantly from the story told in the books.

As an example, it will not surprise me in the slightest if Elyas never makes an appearance in the television series.

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Were there defining looks/characteristics of people of people in the books? All I got from book one is the red hair and Perrins a bit bulky.

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Except Rand (geneticall Aiel), everyone in the two Rivers was described as having dark complexion with dark hair and dark eyes. I always envisioned everyone there as being either Mediterranean or Middle Eastern.

Based upon the descriptions in the books, the actors are as follows. Rand looks about right, but it’s not tall enough. He should be about 6’5” or 6’6”. Perrin should be about three or 4 inches shorter than Rand, and he should be built like a defense of end. The actor is far too small a guy. Matt is fairly accurate.

Egwene snd Nynaeve look about right, absent the mole, though Italians or Lebanese would’ve been closer than a Nigerian and a Maori.

Lan is about how I envisioned him, but Moraine is too tall. Thom is too young and should have white hair.

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Speaking of Logain, in the books he was mentioned MANY times before he's actually introduced but in the show I think his name was mentioned once before they showed him at the end of E3.

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True, but I don't put that in the same category of "things where they changed the order."

In the books, we knew that Logain was fighting a war and that he was defeated and captured by the Red, long before any POV character saw him. The series simply shows events that were happening at the same time in the books, but just "off the page," so to speak.

I always liked the Logain character, and he is present in almost every book ... weaving then gentled then Healed. I like that the show is moving him into a more-prominent role.

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I knew book readers weren't going to like this show before the first trailer even came out

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I have read the entire book series several times, and I like the TV series just fine so far.

But you are correct that Book Nazis would not have been pleased with anything less than 1000 hours of TV, using the books in place of a screenplay and script.

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if you are unitarian and/or a universalist, you don't really have a claim to the name of "Christian", considering you have to reject some very important aspects of who Jesus is and what He has accomplished to hold to your beliefs.

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Actually, the notion of the Trinity is not explicitly stated anywhere in the New Testament (even after the Trinitarians chose the Books to include). The doctrine is cobbled together from bits and pieces of unrelated verses.

So, such a person would simply be rejecting one interpretation of Scripture (formulated by Man) in favor of another interpretation (also formulated by different Men), rather than accepting that first interpretation is if the interpretation were Scripture itself.

Your response is a perfect example of No True Scotsman.

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UU stands for Unitarian Universalist. A merger of two very liberal "Christian" denominations

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There are many Christians on this rock who are not Trinitarians.

Trinitarians will respond with some version of "No True Scotsman."

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Some of the things they are doing might make sense later (like Perrin being married or Matt being a thief) or they may have been just to give those characters more flesh earlier (because both characters were somewhat flat in the first book). Other things, like how they rushed the flight from Emond's Field to the point where it made Rand's blowup at Moiraine feel awkward and out of place... that makes me wonder exactly how much of a grasp on the story they really have.

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They want suspense as to who is the Dragon Reborn, so they must give more early time to Mat/Perrin, and the thieving and wife accomplish that (though I don't like what they did to Mat's family).

Beyond that, they simply MUST streamline to get the 14-book story into 64 episodes (that is 175 pages per hour of TV), and I actually agree with most of what they have done so far.

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Baerlon. By skipping it, all we really missed was meeting Min, and it will be easy to have her and Rand cross paths somewhere further down the road. See Nynaeve catching the group. Rather than finding them in a Baerlon inn, she just rejoined the story out on the road. Same with the Children. Rather than Mat playing a prank on them in Baerlon, they just meet on the road, too. (Incidentally, a really clever way to introduce the 3 Oaths).

Mining Village. The mining village smoothly consolidated several things. First, it replaced Baerlon while saving some set production money in building a small city. Second, it let them introduce Thom separately from the EF4 (Rand/Mat/Perrin/Egwene). That first episode didn't really need still another character introduction. Third, the only interesting thing about Rand/Mat traveling the road from Whitebridge to Caemlyn was the Darkfriend encounter. Playing with Darkfried Dana in the mining village probably makes that entire (boring) trip unnecessary. Hell, it may even make Whitebridge unnecessary as a whole, since Thom fought the Myrddraahl (and lost Mat/Rand) at the farmer's cottage. Even the dead Aielman let them introduce an important story element quickly and easily.

The downside is that the world is still looking pretty small, as we still haven't seen anything resembling a living city. If they skip Whitebridge, we don't see anything but countryside until Caemlyn. Heck, do we even see Caemlyn? They could meet Loial in an inn anywhere, and the fact that Elayne is not cast until Season 2 tells me that they don't even go to Caemlyn this season.

Based upon the thread title, it was a safe bet that it would be either Branco or Garrison.