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re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - ABSOLUTELY NO BOOK READERS AT ALL
Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:29 am to chryso
Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:29 am to chryso
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Just finished episode 5. I feel like it was a waste of an hour.
Yeah, that was definitely a character development episode for the most part. The parts with the ogre were interesting as well as Perrin/Egwene. Everything else felt like filler.
Then there was that weird sequence of events where Nynaeve was told to go check out the Garden, then the very next scene is Ogre walks into Rand's room and says "guess what dude, I have access to the tower gardens and found your friend". What set up that felt like filler was so necessary that they decided it was a good idea to skip the scene of the ogre finding her in the garden?
Also, WTF is Perrin? I'm pretty sure he's not the Dragon, but he is something. BTW that was a rhetorical question, not an invitation to book readers to spoil the thread.
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:16 am to TigerinATL
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then the very next scene is Ogre walks into Rand's room
That's Loial. I haven't seen the episode yet, I'm assuming they CGI'd him. Does he look better than the trollocs?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:22 am to TigerinATL
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Also, WTF is Perrin? I
Do you really want to know?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:27 am to TigerinATL
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Also, WTF is Perrin?
He's a blacksmiths apprentice.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:30 am to Mrtommorrow1987
He doesn’t.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:31 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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Do you really want to know?
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BTW that was a rhetorical question, not an invitation to book readers to spoil the thread.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:37 am to wadewilson
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I'm assuming they CGI'd him. Does he look better than the trollocs?
He looks like it's makeup and practical effects, although they can certainly CGI on top of that.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:02 am to TigerinATL
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Yeah, that was definitely a character development episode for the most part. The parts with the ogre were interesting as well as Perrin/Egwene. Everything else felt like filler.
Right, except the character who got the most development ended up killing himself. That is a big waste of time.
The ogre was interesting but I thought his dialogue was terrible.
I didn't understand the Perrin/Egwene bit. The CotL see them in the crowd. They recognize them from having seen them before. Therefore they have to kill one of them? The options boil down to
1. If you can do magic we will kill you.
2. If you can't do magic we will kill your friend.
WTF kind of reason is that?
For a series that spanned 14 books that they are trying to cram into a much fewer number of TV seasons I have to wonder why they chose this to spend time on. Is this supposed to be the good part?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:40 am to chryso
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except the character who got the most development ended up killing himself. That is a big waste of time.
That seemed like it was all to show us about the Warders, which was necessary in general. They really drove home the connection between Warders and Aes Sedai when Morraine lost it too. But they could have easily cut 5-10 minutes of that story line and put it somewhere else.
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I didn't understand the Perrin/Egwene bit. The CotL see them in the crowd. They recognize them from having seen them before. Therefore they have to kill one of them? The options boil down to
1. If you can do magic we will kill you.
2. If you can't do magic we will kill your friend.
WTF kind of reason is that?
First I think you have to accept that the questioner dude is nuts and a zealot about killing channelers regardless of collateral damage. Not sure if that's how he is in the book, but that's how he's been portrayed here.
Second, I think he'd have ended up killing them both, again crazy zealot, but he was hoping to force her to show herself so he could confirm that he was right.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:59 pm to Hester Carries
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Why would the darkest skinned woman, with the darkest hair, be covering her hair and not her face (which is the thing that actually needs sun protection) in a full on forest environment when no one else is? And doing so with something that is literally a hijab. But sure, bend over backwards to defend an absurd thing
I just assumed the actress herself may be Muslim and therefore the head covering. I don’t see the big deal honestly.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:10 pm to chryso
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the character who got the most development ended up killing himself
He really didn’t want to be bonded to that other Aes Sedai with the two warders he’d end up having sex with. I respect his choice.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:12 pm to BluegrassBelle
The hijab deal is no big deal (I don't think it's really "woke" because the Red Ajah sucks, so it's putting a hijab on someone who is halfway a villain, which isn't really woke at all), but I think the criticism about cultural heterogeneity of the various regions is a valid criticism. I think they've approached the geography in a similarly annoying fashion. The group gets separated at the haunted city and within a day of travel: one group is in a desert, one group is in a high alpine mountain and the other group is in some verdant European forest looking place.
I mean, Game of Thrones took great pains to make each "region" have a very distinct geography, architecture, ethnicity, etc... because that's good world building. This is just lazy world building, IMO. I don't think it's woke or PC or anything... it just seems lazy.
I mean, Game of Thrones took great pains to make each "region" have a very distinct geography, architecture, ethnicity, etc... because that's good world building. This is just lazy world building, IMO. I don't think it's woke or PC or anything... it just seems lazy.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:15 pm to TigerinATL
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I think he'd have ended up killing them both, again crazy zealot, but he was hoping to force her to show herself so he could confirm that he was right.
For sure, but he didn’t know how to respond when the dude hulked/wolfed out. Perrin clearly has a bond to the wolves and possibly some of their abilities. Don’t know if there are werewolves in this universe, not a reader.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:56 pm to hogfly
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The hijab deal is no big deal (I don't think it's really "woke" because the Red Ajah sucks, so it's putting a hijab on someone who is halfway a villain, which isn't really woke at all), but I think the criticism about cultural heterogeneity of the various regions is a valid criticism. I think they've approached the geography in a similarly annoying fashion. The group gets separated at the haunted city and within a day of travel: one group is in a desert, one group is in a high alpine mountain and the other group is in some verdant European forest looking place.
This. And all groups find the absolutely perfect mix of racial and ethnic backgrounds to mirror our current society.
It's forced, it's noticeable, and it's really annoying.
They're trying to be "inclusive", but they're destroying the suspension of belief needed for good fantasy.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:18 pm to luvdoc
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During the course of the books
post whatever bullshite you have to say in the book reader thread.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:44 pm to TigerinATL
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Ogre
Ogier. Just FTR.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 8:00 pm to 3nOut
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Ogier. Just FTR.
Yes. Jordan does that "oh so clever' thing where he cognates an existing archetype and slightly twists/bends the expectation around that archetype.
one of the most annoying quirks of fantasy authors.
They've now met the TROLLocs and Ogiers. Can't wait until everyone meets the gublins, dwarphs, and whiches.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:40 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Do you really want to know?
What do y’all get out of coming in this thread? Some weird “I know something y’all don’t know” complex? Lol
I honestly don’t understand the appeal or desire to even read this, given that their is another thread
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:57 pm to Fun Bunch
Oof, that tinker bitch slapping part was frickef up. I haven’t been liking that story line but I loved them standing up for their people.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:31 am to Hester Carries
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What do y’all get out of coming in this thread? Some weird “I know something y’all don’t know” complex? Lol I honestly don’t understand the appeal or desire to even read this, given that their is another thread
Agreed. I’m in both threads. This one for a strict show purpose and enjoyment of fantasy. I’m in the other thread to be bitch about book inconsistencies and dunk on fun bunch.
but there’s no reason to even joke around with spoilers in this thread other than to be an arse.
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