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re: Watching Lord of the Rings for the first time
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I was several years late to LOR Fotr and TT and was shocked by how I missed them when then reveling in how good they were.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:17 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Return of the King is the best of the three.
The Hobbit just doesn’t quite do it for me. Hard to explain but it just misses the mark despite being almost the exact same visually.
The Hobbit just doesn’t quite do it for me. Hard to explain but it just misses the mark despite being almost the exact same visually.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:38 am to Henry Jones Jr
Please check back in and let us know what you think of ROTK!

Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:17 am to Upperdecker
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think the Hobbit trilogy is worth watching as a nerd, even though they’re not that good LOTR is just the holy grail of fantasy cinema
This. I’d still watch the hobbit stuff just because. Some familiar faces and Smaug was done really well. The inner nerd will be happy to at least have seen it.
Then next you need to run to the used book store and get a copy of the Silmarillion. See how this universe got started and why it’s the GOAT.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:53 am to StansberryRules
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The Hobbit trilogy is highly disappointing.
If you went into it thinking it would be as good as the LOTR trilogy was, then yes. If you went into it fairly open minded.... Its fine. Not a masterpiece of cinema, but not a steaming pile of dog crap either.
Read the book definitely. Hobbit movies, maybe.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:53 am to Henry Jones Jr
Screw these whiny cunts and watch The Hobbit. No it's not as good as LOTR, but it's still a solid watch. You will enjoy the same themes, music, and overall production.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:27 pm to Henry Jones Jr
LOTR is the best trilogy ever made, and I say that as someone who’s never read the books and isn’t a big fantasy guy.
The story, cast, cinematography, music, and action scenes are incredible.
The Battle of Helms Deep and the Battle of the Pelennor Fields are up there with the D-Day sequence in Saving Private Ryan.
The charge of the Rohirrim at Helms Deep gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
The story, cast, cinematography, music, and action scenes are incredible.
The Battle of Helms Deep and the Battle of the Pelennor Fields are up there with the D-Day sequence in Saving Private Ryan.
The charge of the Rohirrim at Helms Deep gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:36 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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After I’m done, are The Hobbit movies as good or on par with these 3?
I have some terrible news
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:59 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Amazon can't. Somebody posted a listing of who has rights, and Amazon has the TV rights only. New Line has movie rights. That's why they're making War of the Rohirrim, and apparently a prequel film (the hunt for gollum).
I don’t think it will be remade anytime soon unless Amazon decides to intentionally bastardize it.
Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:56 pm to VolSquatch
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If you went into it fairly open minded.... Its fine.
It certainly wasn't 'fine'.
How about expecting any semblance of the source material? Which there wasn't.
Studios can't help themselves. What should have been a 1-2 movie (at most) smaller more fairy tale style story was instead just a 3-part CG monstrosity which buried the heart and soul of the original.
It was so bad in the way it was made, even Sir Ian McKellen nearly had a break down because he was forced to act against props on a green screen, instead of real actors and practical effects.
“In order to shoot the dwarves and a large Gandalf, we couldn’t be in the same set,” he said. “All I had for company was 13 photographs of the dwarves on top of stands with little lights – whoever’s talking flashes up. Pretending you’re with 13 other people when you’re on your own, it stretches your technical ability to the absolute limits.”
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:19 pm to Henry Jones Jr
If you think the movies are good just wait til you watch rings of power
Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:26 pm to Henry Jones Jr
The hobbit is great if you love dwarf on elf sex scenes
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
It holds up so good man.
Nothing they make today even approaches it.
Nothing they make today even approaches it.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:34 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:42 pm to el Gaucho
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If you think the movies are good just wait til you watch rings of power
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:18 pm to Scoob
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Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book.
I honestly don't know how you even film a true representation the Silmarillion, especially the early parts of the book. Also, the massive time jumps and breif passages that cover hundreds or thousands of years is just almost unthinkable to me.
I can see an animated version of many of the stories, but I really can't fathom how they could do it with live action other than deep dives into small tales and flesh them out into multiple hour films/episodes.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:35 am to Henry Jones Jr
Would love to be able to watch the trilogy again for the first time.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:07 am to Scoob
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Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book
They'd need to sell rights to the supplemental works to make Silmarillion work - appendices in LOTR don't fill in gaps enough (unless the purchasers of the rights don't really care about the source material [ cough Rings of Power cough ])
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:04 am to udtiger
quote:Exactly...
They'd need to sell rights to the supplemental works to make Silmarillion work - appendices in LOTR don't fill in gaps enough (unless the purchasers of the rights don't really care about the source material [ cough Rings of Power cough ])
They (the Estate) has resisted selling rights to the Silmarillion and other 1st Age stuff so far. Now that Christopher has died, I give it about a decade before they start to do that, as it does contain some big stories. If they can sell TV rights to just LOTR and appendixes to Amazon for $250 mil (they did), you can probably get way more for Beren and Luthien, or Gondolin, or Turin. Each of those 3 could be enormous trilogies.
If done right, Beren and Luthien could be bigger than LOTR.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:31 am to Scoob
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you can probably get way more for Beren and Luthien, or Gondolin, or Turin. Each of those 3 could be enormous trilogies.
Fëanor‘s story alone is worth $$$
ETA trying to think who would be a good actor for this role. Alexander Skarsgård Comes to mind if still in good shape. I could see him pulling it off. But in todays age it will be somebody like Kevin Hart
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 7:44 am
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