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re: Watching Lord of the Rings for the first time

Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:08 pm to
I was several years late to LOR Fotr and TT and was shocked by how I missed them when then reveling in how good they were.
Posted by Pax Regis
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 10:17 pm to
Return of the King is the best of the three.

The Hobbit just doesn’t quite do it for me. Hard to explain but it just misses the mark despite being almost the exact same visually.
Posted by Johnson City Reb
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:38 am to
Please check back in and let us know what you think of ROTK!

Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:17 am to
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think the Hobbit trilogy is worth watching as a nerd, even though they’re not that good LOTR is just the holy grail of fantasy cinema


This. I’d still watch the hobbit stuff just because. Some familiar faces and Smaug was done really well. The inner nerd will be happy to at least have seen it.

Then next you need to run to the used book store and get a copy of the Silmarillion. See how this universe got started and why it’s the GOAT.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:53 am to
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The Hobbit trilogy is highly disappointing.



If you went into it thinking it would be as good as the LOTR trilogy was, then yes. If you went into it fairly open minded.... Its fine. Not a masterpiece of cinema, but not a steaming pile of dog crap either.

Read the book definitely. Hobbit movies, maybe.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:53 am to
Screw these whiny cunts and watch The Hobbit. No it's not as good as LOTR, but it's still a solid watch. You will enjoy the same themes, music, and overall production.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:27 pm to
LOTR is the best trilogy ever made, and I say that as someone who’s never read the books and isn’t a big fantasy guy.

The story, cast, cinematography, music, and action scenes are incredible.

The Battle of Helms Deep and the Battle of the Pelennor Fields are up there with the D-Day sequence in Saving Private Ryan.

The charge of the Rohirrim at Helms Deep gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:36 pm to
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After I’m done, are The Hobbit movies as good or on par with these 3?


I have some terrible news
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:59 pm to
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I don’t think it will be remade anytime soon unless Amazon decides to intentionally bastardize it.
Amazon can't. Somebody posted a listing of who has rights, and Amazon has the TV rights only. New Line has movie rights. That's why they're making War of the Rohirrim, and apparently a prequel film (the hunt for gollum).

Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:56 pm to
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If you went into it fairly open minded.... Its fine.


It certainly wasn't 'fine'.

How about expecting any semblance of the source material? Which there wasn't.

Studios can't help themselves. What should have been a 1-2 movie (at most) smaller more fairy tale style story was instead just a 3-part CG monstrosity which buried the heart and soul of the original.

It was so bad in the way it was made, even Sir Ian McKellen nearly had a break down because he was forced to act against props on a green screen, instead of real actors and practical effects.


“In order to shoot the dwarves and a large Gandalf, we couldn’t be in the same set,” he said. “All I had for company was 13 photographs of the dwarves on top of stands with little lights – whoever’s talking flashes up. Pretending you’re with 13 other people when you’re on your own, it stretches your technical ability to the absolute limits.”
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:19 pm to
If you think the movies are good just wait til you watch rings of power
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 6:26 pm to
The hobbit is great if you love dwarf on elf sex scenes
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:33 pm to
It holds up so good man.

Nothing they make today even approaches it.
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:42 pm to
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If you think the movies are good just wait til you watch rings of power

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26461 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book.


I honestly don't know how you even film a true representation the Silmarillion, especially the early parts of the book. Also, the massive time jumps and breif passages that cover hundreds or thousands of years is just almost unthinkable to me.

I can see an animated version of many of the stories, but I really can't fathom how they could do it with live action other than deep dives into small tales and flesh them out into multiple hour films/episodes.
Posted by Tusk Till Dawn
Worldwide
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:35 am to
Would love to be able to watch the trilogy again for the first time.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:07 am to
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Nobody has the Silmarillion rights yet, I imagine that will change in about a decade or so. That's going to be the next big money grab, I'm guessing the Estate will wait awhile out of respect to Christopher's wishes, before cashing in.
There's 3, maybe 4 epic tales that could rival or surpass LOTR in that book


They'd need to sell rights to the supplemental works to make Silmarillion work - appendices in LOTR don't fill in gaps enough (unless the purchasers of the rights don't really care about the source material [ cough Rings of Power cough ])
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:04 am to
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They'd need to sell rights to the supplemental works to make Silmarillion work - appendices in LOTR don't fill in gaps enough (unless the purchasers of the rights don't really care about the source material [ cough Rings of Power cough ])
Exactly...

They (the Estate) has resisted selling rights to the Silmarillion and other 1st Age stuff so far. Now that Christopher has died, I give it about a decade before they start to do that, as it does contain some big stories. If they can sell TV rights to just LOTR and appendixes to Amazon for $250 mil (they did), you can probably get way more for Beren and Luthien, or Gondolin, or Turin. Each of those 3 could be enormous trilogies.

If done right, Beren and Luthien could be bigger than LOTR.
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
1990 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:31 am to
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you can probably get way more for Beren and Luthien, or Gondolin, or Turin. Each of those 3 could be enormous trilogies.


Fëanor‘s story alone is worth $$$

ETA trying to think who would be a good actor for this role. Alexander Skarsgård Comes to mind if still in good shape. I could see him pulling it off. But in todays age it will be somebody like Kevin Hart
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 7:44 am
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