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Untold - The Girlfriend Who Never Existed

Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:38 pm
Posted by ClampClampington
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:38 pm
New Manti Te'o Netflix documentary dropped today. Anyone else plan on watching it? What's crazy looking back, there is no way that whole scheme works or would blow up in the media like it did if it even happened 2 years later. This was when everyone realized there are a ton of people in this world that live almost exclusively on the internet.

He was a beast on the field, had a nice pro career and always seem to be regarding as a great person. It's incredibly sad that the hoax is what everyone will always remember him for.


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Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:46 pm to
He's just lucky his gullible arse didn't need a job

Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:02 pm to
I'm gonna watch it. The same guys made The Battered Bastards of Baseball which is one of my favorite documentaries.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:05 pm to
This story didn't interest me the first time. He got catfished, so what?
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:31 pm to
Back then he was chastised for being so dumb and getting duped the way he did. Today he would be get bashed for not having an open mind and giving that fat guy a chance. Times have drastically changed and it hasn’t even been that long.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:12 pm to
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would blow up in the media like it did
not interested in watching but it’s worth the reminder that it was deadspin (RIP) that investigated and broke the story, when every other media outlet was lapping up the bullshite and doing fawning puff pieces on teo and his story. It wasn’t until after the deadspin piece that major media reporters actually started doing their jobs
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:35 pm to
I’m uncomfortable watching it

He was in on it
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:42 pm to
Very uncomfortable watch. ESPN almost won him the Heisman with their coverage.
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:07 pm to
One of the most gullible humans to ever walk the Earth
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68510 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:28 pm to
I don’t think he was in on it. Just incredibly gullible. Irritated me to no end how they tried to give the person who catfished him a sympathetic angle. Doesn’t surprise me though. That fricking idiot (the catfish) said he hoped that his story would “be a light to other people who are trans”.

Like, mother fricker, you are a psychopath who says “I feel bad for what I did” but don’t really mean it. That sick frick doesn’t care and doesn’t see that he’s insane.

Te’o comes off as a genuinely good dude. Just an idiot
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:37 pm to
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I don’t think he was in on it. Just incredibly gullible.


Where do the "he was gullible" people derive their conclusions?

Not saying there is hard evidence either way. But how does someone with an above average IQ (I may be being generous, but surely he's not dumb*) fall for a trick that obvious all the way up to almost age 22?

Even if there is a miniscule chance that he was duped at some point, I still maintain that by the time the media caught wind of the story, he had already found out and willingly went along with the ruse because it provided a human-interest angle for his emerging Heisman campaign.

*If he was still in high school and was not world weary yet, I could see even a 185 IQ person getting suckered in. But by 22, you've surely had your fair share of cons either attempted or pulled on you at some point. He couldn't have been that naïve.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:41 pm to
I haven't watched this. Given the high levels of stupid college aged men have about women? Why do people assume Teo was in on the catfish?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68510 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Where do the "he was gullible" people derive their conclusions?
People can be intelligent and feel something is off (which he admits happened at times) but still lie to themselves so much that they start believing something that is obviously a hoax to the rest of us.

He was a young Mormon kid from a small town in Hawaii. He was a pretty sheltered kid from a very religious family. Then he went to Notre Dame. It wouldn’t surprise me if the “girl” was the first one he had ever really talked to romantically. He trusted talking to “her” and if they were in a relationship, he is a man of principal who was probably very strict on himself about not approaching other women.

Te’o comes off kind of like Tebow. Intelligent but socially awkward. He only recently got married.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 9:44 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:45 pm to
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Young Mormon kid from a small town in Hawaii. He was a pretty sheltered kid from a very religious family. Then he went to Notre Dame. It wouldn’t surprise me if the “girl” was the first one he had ever really talked to romantically. He trusted talking to “her” and if they were in a relationship, he is a man of principal who was probably very strict on himself about not approaching other women.


Don't let the "Aw, shucks" Mormon routine fool you. Like Baptist preacher daughters, many Mormons are lot more experienced than you might think.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:49 pm to
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The Battered Bastards of Baseball

Excellent, excellent documentary
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:50 pm to
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Why do people assume Teo was in on the catfish?


The biggest red flag for me is that Tuiasosopo is described as a "family friend" of Teo.

Most catfishing stories I have heard about were done by strangers who had no direct, physical meeting with the victim. Edit: Like, they're usually performed on victims who are so gullible to think everyone they meet online is telling the truth. Something is fishy about it being done by a family friend in this case.

Also, Teo has said he had lied about meeting the girl. This can be conveniently explained that he was embarrassed by the ruse, which at this point, he said he had finally figured out, but sure seems suspiciously like someone in on the hoax from the start.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68510 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:51 pm to
And a lot of them aren’t. There’s more evidence that he wasn’t involved than if he was. Mainly, the catfish admitting Te’o didn’t know.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Also, Teo has said he had lied about meeting the girl.


Because it's weird, especially for a football star who should have no trouble getting girls. Pretty understandable actually.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Because it's weird, especially for a football star who should have no trouble getting girls. Pretty understandable actually.


But he said he lied to his father…who, if we’re going on the “sheltered Mormon” theory, should be incredibly understanding of Teo not being romantically or sexually experienced yet. Should be like “Nah, dad no girlfriend yet. But I hope to find a godly woman who’ll please you and mom.”

Edit: If it had only been his friends his age, I could understand being shy about not divulging his lack of experience with women. But if there were people who would actually support his staying celibate until marriage and waiting to find the right woman, it would be his parents.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted by RUFshreve
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Member since Jul 2016
2681 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:30 pm to
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Even if there is a miniscule chance that he was duped at some point, I still maintain that by the time the media caught wind of the story, he had already found out and willingly went along with the ruse because it provided a human-interest angle for his emerging Heisman campaign.


You should watch the documentary. They go into all that. He found out 2 days before the Heisman ceremony that "Lennay" was still alive, but at that point, he didn't know what to think or say about it.

It's pretty obvious he was duped. He was gullible, but he was young and living in a bubble. I truly don't believe he was in on it in anyway, he just got played.

It's really hard to watch though, that's one of the most public embarrassments I've ever heard of. Complete and utter humiliation. Feel for the guy, but the sick frick who catfished him is a POS.
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