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re: True Detective Season One E3: "Locked Room"
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:42 am to EarthwormJim
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:42 am to EarthwormJim
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Yeah, Billy Lee Tuttle will play a big role. Not sure if he is the actual murdered or just responsible in some way.
Yeah I feel the same way.
My theory is that Marty was so ignorant in 1995 he couldn't make the case against Tuttle happen (due to gov't pressure and his own religious beliefs), so they pinned it on Ledoux.
You can tell 2012 version of Marty is much more complimentary of Rust - looking back he knows Rust was right and it seems like he's become more of a realist.
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:42 am to Zed
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at times it sounds less like an actual conversation, and more like Rust Cohle's random thoughts about life and death and religion. It's still interesting though
That's because that is exactly what it is.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:42 am to EarthwormJim
Yes, the the key to understanding Rust is that Hart is right--he is panicked. He's at once a deeply profound and poetic thinker and also someone who doesn't see just how far his reasoning is motivated.
But to be honest, I'm really put off by these reviews that say Rust is doing teenage-style philosophizing. The same people often clearly indicate that they don't understand what Rust is saying. For one thing, although Rust and Nietzsche have a lot in common, Rust is ultimately the opposite of a Nietzschean--he's a pessimist. The person to look up is Schopenhauer.
But to be honest, I'm really put off by these reviews that say Rust is doing teenage-style philosophizing. The same people often clearly indicate that they don't understand what Rust is saying. For one thing, although Rust and Nietzsche have a lot in common, Rust is ultimately the opposite of a Nietzschean--he's a pessimist. The person to look up is Schopenhauer.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:44 am to Prominentwon
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Anyone notice the guy, second from last, top row?
McLOVIN"!
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:47 am to EarthwormJim
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Not sure if he is the actual murdered or just responsible in some way.
Agreed. I'm starting to lean that way myself. He may have not been he guy that actually killed her, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one leading the cult.
A big, hefty, powerful man with a slick tongue are usually the type to lead these cults.
Politicians want an arrest quickly.
Hope this isn't turning out to be "shite, I killed a hooker. Major, can you sweep this under the rug?" type deal.
I mentioned that the Major we see escorting Tuttle around may have a hand in it as well. That was shot down by my SO. But I wouldn't be surprised.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:54 am to Prominentwon
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Hope this isn't turning out to be "shite, I killed a hooker. Then put horns on her. And tied her up. And staged her body to be found. And went back in time and killed other girls Major, can you sweep this under the rug?" type deal.
Probably not.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:56 am to EarthwormJim
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So Cohle tricks himself with faith in nothingness because it is safer than starting all over again.
100% on target.
Just want to say whether its the subject or the people in the subject this thread is perhaps one of the highest quality threads I have ever read on TD.
Any one else agree?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:56 am to guedeaux
touchePosted on 1/27/14 at 10:57 am to Prominentwon
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Hope this isn't turning out to be "shite, I killed a hooker. Major, can you sweep this under the rug?" type deal.
I mentioned that the Major we see escorting Tuttle around may have a hand in it as well. That was shot down by my SO. But I wouldn't be surprised.
The Major is one of my suspects. Probably would be more than just covering up killing a hooker though.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:59 am to Prominentwon
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A big, hefty, powerful man
Big enough to drag a body some ways through a cane field
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:00 am to Decatur
Billy Lee Tuttle is essentially Big John from Oh Brother, Where Art Tho?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:00 am to Decatur
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Big enough to drag a body some ways through a cane field
I meant that I think he's the man behind the cult. I don't think he actually killed her.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:03 am to Bayou Sam
I think the tent revivals might act as a trap for lost souls laid out by Tuttle or people connected with him. The women show up and are scouted by the Preacher. Relationships are built and the shiny-faced guy leads the girls back to the drug compound where they are slowly dosed with drugs. Cohle suggested the slow dosing of the girls in an earlier episode.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:05 am to JBeam
Lawn mower guy is George Remus from BWE.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:05 am to Oizers
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I think the tent revivals might act as a trap for lost souls laid out by Tuttle or people connected with him. The women show up and are scouted by the Preacher. Relationships are built and the shiny-faced guy leads the girls back to the drug compound where they are slowly dosed with drugs. Cohle suggested the slow dosing of the girls in an earlier episode.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:06 am to Prominentwon
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I don't think he actually killed her.
But he could know something about it. I was reading how a lot of these killers inject themselves into the investigation somehow, offer help, etc.
That's another thing. It seems like this show draws a lot from real criminal investigative analysis. Lots of emphasis the investigative thought process and not getting sucked into biased thinking.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:07 am to Prominentwon
just finished the entire 3rd ep. man, maybe I am too fixated on the theory of Rust being a split personality from Marty, but lots and lots of signs are there if you have that in your mind. damn. That ending diatribe about your pain, love, hurt, memories, etc.. all being a part of a dream you had in a locked room...a dream of being "a person"...you read it as his pessimism and dreary outlook could be that he he knows he isn't real
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:09 am to NIH
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Lawn mower guy is George Remus from BWE.
Holy shite. Great catch.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:09 am to Prominentwon
Also, I don't see some skinny meth addict dragging a body too far or being meticulous enough to set the Lange crime scene.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 11:10 am to Oizers
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I think the tent revivals might act as a trap for lost souls laid out by Tuttle or people connected with him. The women show up and are scouted by the Preacher. Relationships are built and the shiny-faced guy leads the girls back to the drug compound where they are slowly dosed with drugs. Cohle suggested the slow dosing of the girls in an earlier episode.
Whoa
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