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re: True Detective Season One E3: "Locked Room"

Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:53 am to
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:53 am to
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if he is doing one interview as Marty and one interview as "Rust" on his "off days" I would say that is trauma


You've been on this thoery before you've even seen the show. I'm not seeing it.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:56 am to
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some interesting quotes from the preacher...

"he knew you thought you didn't know yourself"

"that face you see isn't your own"

"this world is a vail"



Good observation. You really don't understand Rust's philosophy (and therefore his character) unless you see it's the flipside of Christianity.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:56 am to
What's wrong with what he said there? If you aren't a christian, it makes complete sense.

I'll be honest. Everything he said at the tent made complete sense to me.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:56 am to
that convo at the tent brought back so many memories from high school
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:57 am to
I've seen both episodes and I'm about to watch the rest of 3.

I'm not saying "book it" but I am saying its a viable theory that Marty is traumatized by the case and perhaps something that happens to his daughter and eventually splits into to different personalities. each personality doesn't know he is the other one....hence then "I don't sleep, I dream"...hence the stilted dialogue by Rust who represents an opposite point of view...Rust also alludes to a daughter who died...his past is foggy (several files are still "classified")...he's not married anymore...just saying


I really hope I'm wrong.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:58 am to
Everything Rust said under that tent is something people think about daily. But, don't have the gall to say in public.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:59 am to
lulz I'm a christian and what Rust the athiest says makes complete sense to me. I don't know many people who say it the way he says it, but I understand the worldview
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:59 am to
I think you have something. I suspected Marty might be it at the end of last episode, in the thread. But ultimately I doubt it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:59 am to
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But, don't have the gall to say in public.

it's not just gall...it's pretty wise not to

i'm pretty much eliminated from public office out here b/c of that kind of stuff from 15 years ago
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:59 am to
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but the character they've created is so far from being realistic and it's basically just a vessel to allow MM to chew scenes spouting rants that don't even always come together or make real sense. i know i've been in this corner since ep 1, but they've created a static character to chew scenes, instead of a dynamic character that is realistic but has profound thoughts


I think the Rust revealed to us thus far in 1995 and in the interviews has been a troubled man teetering on the edge of control; however, these are two different troubled men. At these points he is even-keeled therefore static, but in between 1995 and present time, changes occur and we will be seeing the impetus for the changes in the episodes to come.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:00 am to
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Everything Rust said under that tent is something many people think about daily. But, don't have the gall to say in public.


I don't see a problem with it at all. ....and I really don't think it should weigh on Rust's character.

(I'm looking at you SFP)
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:02 am to
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he may not be realistic...on purpose...as in he may not be a real person. they way he philosphizes constantly comes off as if he is a split off of Woody's personality...his dark conscience or the doubts/cynicism that lie within him...I hope to God that is wrong and they don't go that way with the story, but I fear that is where this is headed


So his wife invited a friend onto a double-date with her husband and his alternative, dark personality? Too many scenes show people interacting with both of them.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:02 am to
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I suspected Marty might be it at the end of last episode, in the thread. But ultimately I doubt it.


So we're introduced in Ep. 3 to a "tall man." That's been seen with Dory before. I, for one, took him as being the man they were looking for and was seen by the retard and the two kids.

If they saw the tall man.....then it's not Marty or Rust. They obviously would have recognized them.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by LSUSilverfox
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:02 am to
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5. What is the tattoo on Rust's arm? That's a new addition since 1995, right?


No he has this when he smells pussy on Marty in the locker room. I'd assume it was something he got done while undercover prior to 1995.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:05 am to
Just watched the trailer for E4. I think we're about to see what Rust was like during his undercover days.


Also, Marty has a run in with titty monster.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:05 am to
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So his wife invited a friend onto a double-date with her husband and his alternative, dark personality? Too many scenes show people interacting with both of them.

Yea this plus the scenes with their Major debunk this theory IMO
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:09 am to
Yeah that's right. I'm talking about the 2012 "copycat" (if that's what it is).
Posted by LSUSilverfox
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:10 am to
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but the character they've created is so far from being realistic and it's basically just a vessel to allow MM to chew scenes spouting rants that don't even always come together or make real sense. i know i've been in this corner since ep 1, but they've created a static character to chew scenes, instead of a dynamic character that is realistic but has profound thoughts

i really hope he doesn't play "God" the entire series. that was my fear after ep 1 and i was hoping it ended there. that's why i got into all those arguments after ep1


This guy. I feel bad for you.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:11 am to
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