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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:38 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:38 am to
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The cult seeks salvation / enlightenment. They are the opposite of Christianity because although they are structurally alike, they draw the opposite conclusions about reality.

i'm just saying i don't see how sacrificing drug abusers relates to enlightenment, except maybe to show they have the same destructive capabilities as the demon-god...but like i said, the biggest destructive act an individual can do is to kill themselves. it's teh most selfish act a human can do
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:38 am to
bullshite dude. nothing I said in that review was anything earth shattering. basic observations that 100 people probably came to on their own as well.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:39 am to
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because I give it 1% that the show will totally disappoint.

feel the power of the dark side, bro
Posted by wilceaux
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:39 am to
Has it been discussed that the tattoo of a man's face on Ledoux's chest/stomach looked a lot like Rust?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:40 am to
slopes I think it is yet to be revealed what the true motivation/beliefs of the cult/secret society/church whatever is…my guess is we will see it unfold in the next three hours
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:42 am to
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Has it been discussed that the tattoo of a man's face on Ledoux's chest/stomach looked a lot like Rust?


whoa. I didn't notice this
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:43 am to
The decline of quality LSD in the United States has always been attributed to missle silo raid in 1995, which coincidentally also marked the end of the Grateful Dead (because of Jerry Garcia's death). I wonder if Reggie Ledoux is a reference to this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:43 am to
i agree

i don't think that we know nearly enough to make guesses about them/him just yet

that's why i'm trying to make sense of the theory. there is a lot of evidence to guess at a lot of different motivations
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:43 am to
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i'm not a Christian. what exactly is the "flipside" of Christianity? are you talking about just Salvation?


There are perverse "Christian" sects out there that distort things to justify some pretty fricked up shite. You know this man. Darkness has to exist to prove light.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:44 am to
The combo of LSD/meth weirds me out too.
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:46 am to
They aren't trying to just destroy. They are trying to imitate the god.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:47 am to
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The combo of LSD/meth weirds me out too.


I think the LSD should be discussed more. It is such an interesting substance because it leads to psychedelic mind journeys, rather than some speedy high like meth or coke.
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:47 am to
I saw something on reddit after the first or second episode talking about the imagery of the chemical plants, Dora's mom complaining about the chemicals she worked with debilitating her hands.
I'm not sure what, if any connection it would have, but I can't help but think every episode that they're almost like an extra character. It's like every 3rd scene you see a freaking chemical plant.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:47 am to
I think it definitely means there are clues to the CASE right under his nose - not JUST happiness. It's good writing - it can be taken on two levels. On the surface-level his talk about being inattentive and the clues to a happy life/ clues to cases being under your nose seems like he is thinking "I should have just been a good family man, I had THE life and threw it away", but, the WAY its said, the context, and what's showing on-screen when he says it, to me at least, shouts "there were clues right in my family, my life, right under my nose about the CASE."

I think his daughter is involved in the cult or will be. They clearly set her up as damaged goods from a young age. And not from inattention from the father. Her acting out as a teen could have something to do with that, but the drawings and the Barbie scene... that ain't because she overheard him or saw some case file and she wasn't doing that because dad wasn't around - she's been abused.

I also think there's something WAAAAY not right about his wife's parents. That whole scene was deliberately awkward and weird. Not a normal interaction. Not normal expressions/postures. And the focus on the Mardi Gras horseback and little girl picture... strange emphasis.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:48 am to
this is what me and sam do, and have done for years
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:49 am to
Yeah, and his mother-in-law's conversation with Maggie clearly indicated that she knows what it's like to the be the wife of a husband "up to something".
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:49 am to
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The decline of quality LSD in the United States has always been attributed to missle silo raid in 1995, which coincidentally also marked the end of the Grateful Dead (because of Jerry Garcia's death). I wonder if Reggie Ledoux is a reference to this.


This is about as relevant as where Ginger ended up.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:50 am to
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Has it been discussed that the tattoo of a man's face on Ledoux's chest/stomach looked a lot like Rust?


Haha..yeah, I noticed that the tattoo looked just like Matthew McConaughey. Had the McConaughey hair more than the Rust hair. Made me laugh.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:50 am to
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In the end I don't think it matters what happened to Ginger and the viewer can believe what they want about him.


agree with this. rust could have let ginger go because a. a guy like ginger isn't going to just start yapping to the authorities and b. ginger probably couldn't go back to his biker gang because they would execute him for being responsible for letting in an UC officer and getting their meth cooks killed.

had rust let ginger go, ginger probably just goes into hiding on his own. rust could have easily killed ginger as well since nobody is going to try to find him.
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:51 am to
Does anyone know who Ruse is throwing out of his apartment during the preview? Could it be Maggie?
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